2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[gokarter]

i for one see chassis playing a majoy role on the durability of these engine. look at ferrari, no engine problems but we saw in the alfa, mercedes team still going good but look what happen to RP and williams. mclaren chassis problem still not optimized to give renault durability. just like those years with honda but instead honda took all the blame for poor chassis design by mclaren

[_cerber1]

I propose to close the topic of discussion of PU, we all know how this ends.

[Nivedanm]

i for one see chassis playing a majoy role on the durability of these engine. look at ferrari, no engine problems but we saw in the alfa, mercedes team still going good but look what happen to RP and williams. mclaren chassis problem still not optimized to give renault durability. just like those years with honda but instead honda took all the blame for poor chassis design by mclaren

LOL. Weird theory, considering Renault team themselves have suffered PU issues and retired their cars from races quite a few times. If that theory is true, Renault also haven't optimised their chassis to give their PU enough durability.

[Ground Effect]

i for one see chassis playing a majoy role on the durability of these engine. look at ferrari, no engine problems but we saw in the alfa, mercedes team still going good but look what happen to RP and williams. mclaren chassis problem still not optimized to give renault durability. just like those years with honda but instead honda took all the blame for poor chassis design by mclaren

I think that logic is flawed. 2016, Mercedes works team suffered from most, if not all engine related failures, as did Ferrari. Last year Red Bull suffered the bulk of the Renault engine failures, with the superior chassis. You could argue for and against, so at best, it's inconclusive.

[_cerber1]

McLaren hopes to return to the usual fourth position on the field. And for strong results in the coming weeks. “We have already moved the bulk of the workforce to 2020. We are waiting for how he will work for us in the next two or three races. We will bring for Singapore, and then a few more updates. We hope that as soon as possible we will be able to fully devote ourselves to the 2020 car. It depends on how quickly we fix the fourth place. "

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... gien-2019/

[wesley123]

They can afford to as the gap in front of them and behind them is quite large.

[Marc.W]

Unless every race from now until Abu Dhabi is a double DNF I think we're going to be pretty safe in the 4th spot, with Albon showing strength in the Red Bull if the Top 6 finish a race normally then there are only going to be 4 points paying positions available to the rest of the grid which will minimise any damage to the gap we have to the teams behind

[Ground Effect]

McLaren hopes to return to the usual fourth position on the field. And for strong results in the coming weeks. “We have already moved the bulk of the workforce to 2020. We are waiting for how he will work for us in the next two or three races. We will bring for Singapore, and then a few more updates. We hope that as soon as possible we will be able to fully devote ourselves to the 2020 car. It depends on how quickly we fix the fourth place. "

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... gien-2019/

Eager to see what the scope of the updates for Singapore are. Seidl has said that what he would like for Christmas is efficient downforce.

[mwillems]

I propose to close the topic of discussion of PU, we all know how this ends.

With a bang?

[SmallSoldier]

I propose to close the topic of discussion of PU, we all know how this ends.

With a bang?

That’s the best comment I’ve read in a while! Kudos!!!


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[Capharol]

They can afford to as the gap in front of them and behind them is quite large.

you call 30 points ahead of TR large? two full DNF's and this gap is gone

[_cerber1]

Eager to see what the scope of the updates for Singapore are. Seidl has said that what he would like for Christmas is efficient downforce.

I would bet that it will be a suspension.

[thestig84]

They can afford to as the gap in front of them and behind them is quite large.

you call 30 points ahead of TR large? two full DNF's and this gap is gone

Huh!? You expect TR to score better than 6th and 7th in 2 races while both Mclarens DNF. Pretty unlikely given Racing Point looking better recently. I think 7 - 10th are going to be evenly shared out between midfield teams from now on. That should help Mclaren

[RonDennis]

They can afford to as the gap in front of them and behind them is quite large.

you call 30 points ahead of TR large? two full DNF's and this gap is gone

30 points is large if you consider that TR needed 13 races to score 51 points. You could also say that Hamilton's gap is small. Three DNF's and the gap is gone.

oh since when does the renault works team doesn't drive with another engine then renault?

Their lack of performance isn’t engine related... It’s clearly chassis related (ergo, Mclaren with the same engine is outperforming them).

Chassis is more important than engine in the current formula... And we can see that on the difference between the top 3 and everyone else... Mercedes vs RP and Williams... Ferrari vs Alfa and Haas... RBR vs Toro Rosso.

Trying to correlate Track Performance to just the engine doesn’t provide a picture of the actual PU performance.


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do you notice the budget difference between
Mercedes ($ 350 Million) vs Williams ($ 120 Million) & RP ($ 125 Million)
Ferrari ($ 400 Million)vs Alfa ($ 130 Million) & Haas ($ 145 Million)
RBR ($ 350 Million)vs Toro Rosso ($ 140 Million)
Renault ($ 230 Million) vs McLaren ($ 175 Million)

so now tell me why Mercedes, Ferrari, RBR has a better car ..... and even Renault has a better Budget and still gets beaten by McLaren

Sorry, but your numbers are completely incorrect.

[diffuser]

They can afford to as the gap in front of them and behind them is quite large.

you call 30 points ahead of TR large? two full DNF's and this gap is gone

51 point over 13 races is a 4 point a race average for STR... I count 8 more races to catchup and pass McLaren.