Mercedes AMG F1 W03 (pre-launch speculation)

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ak21_rao wrote:Hey guys..is it possible under the current rules for a design with a wider front track and a slightly narrow rear track..The design can be helpful if the car has a LWB and a rear biased weight distribution as the above design will reduce oversteer and won't kill the rear tires either. The drawback could be difficulty in setting up the car.
The WD was fixed last year.

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amouzouris wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:@Schulteiss - the RB7 is one of the shorter cars of 2011, as the RB6 was of 2010.

@yener - what do you intend to blow with the exhaust, when 2012 exhausts are pointing at clean air?
What are you talking about?? the rb7 is the longest...and the exhaust can blow the rear wings..
No it's not. DEFINITELY NOT.

The Mclaren is comfortably the longest & one of the longest I have seen in some time. RBR is long,maybe even 2 longest but not longer than Mclaren.

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Mr.S wrote:The Mclaren is comfortably the longest & one of the longest I have seen in some time. RBR is long,maybe even 2 longest but not longer than Mclaren.
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Nope, the RBR is the longest.

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Mr.S wrote:
amouzouris wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:@Schulteiss - the RB7 is one of the shorter cars of 2011, as the RB6 was of 2010.

@yener - what do you intend to blow with the exhaust, when 2012 exhausts are pointing at clean air?
What are you talking about?? the rb7 is the longest...and the exhaust can blow the rear wings..
No it's not. DEFINITELY NOT.

The Mclaren is comfortably the longest & one of the longest I have seen in some time. RBR is long,maybe even 2 longest but not longer than Mclaren.
I think that you should read more and be sure for what u r saying b4 u say it...

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beelsebob wrote:Nope, the RBR is the longest.
I still don't see how parallax would not be an issue; considering that all the shots were taken at different angles.
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raymondu999 wrote:
beelsebob wrote:Nope, the RBR is the longest.
I still don't see how parallax would not be an issue; considering that all the shots were taken at different angles.
because u r looking at the same plane of every car...it doesn't make a real difference...differences will be smaller than millimeters..

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raymondu999 wrote:
beelsebob wrote:Nope, the RBR is the longest.
I still don't see how parallax would not be an issue; considering that all the shots were taken at different angles.
Because you're comparing items on a plane. What would be an issue is perspective – you would have to make sure that that plane were actually parallel to the camera, but that's easily sorted using a perspective transform, and easily recognised when it's correct, as it results in the wheels being circular and the same size.

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beelsebob you explained it much better!! :D

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Allright I apolgize. But when I see the cars in the race-track the Mclaren does appear to be the longest,maybe due to the side-pods or something like that.

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no need to apologize! we are humans..humans make mistakes...:P

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beelsebob wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:
beelsebob wrote:Nope, the RBR is the longest.
I still don't see how parallax would not be an issue; considering that all the shots were taken at different angles.
Because you're comparing items on a plane. What would be an issue is perspective – you would have to make sure that that plane were actually parallel to the camera, but that's easily sorted using a perspective transform, and easily recognised when it's correct, as it results in the wheels being circular and the same size.
The tyres are a good indicator since they are all the same size, just not in this picture shown above. Enlarge this pic and u'll see the different size of them. Without enlarging you can see that the RBR shot is taken from quite a bit closer.
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I thought that I had stumbled onto What Camera, or some such website.

There is a simple fact that some photographic geniuses seem to be missing. The cars are in different positions on the track. Look at the background tyres. This will of course, distort the photos.
And why is it important to prove that one car is longer than another?

Some seem to be claiming that the Red Bull is a shorter car, and then there are claims that Mercedes are suffering because they have a short car. Defeats all the excuses, doesn't it?

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Its a reason, not an excuse.

On topic.

I understand according to a few online sources that the reasons Mercedes are delaying the W03 is because it wants maximum wind tunnel time(as many have already suggested) to maximise the front wing F-duct.
Apparently the design has been knocking around Brackley since their rear wing f-duct was developed.
Since then the design was shown in very basic form around Suzuka during the FP sessions so the team could verify data from their simulation models.

The complexity surrounding the concept forced their hand somewhat in that is was shown sooner than they wanted, but the kick back is that they have verified the data collected.

If it works as well as Mercedes anticipate, Mercedes could be podium contenders out the blocks. There is also alot written about the front ride height adjuster Renault pioneered. Again, a source suggests Mercedes will be sporting this development at the second test, in very developed from.
More could have been done.
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gilgen wrote:I thought that I had stumbled onto What Camera, or some such website.

There is a simple fact that some photographic geniuses seem to be missing. The cars are in different positions on the track. Look at the background tyres. This will of course, distort the photos.
And why is it important to prove that one car is longer than another?

Some seem to be claiming that the Red Bull is a shorter car, and then there are claims that Mercedes are suffering because they have a short car. Defeats all the excuses, doesn't it?
Uhhh? How does being at a different position on the track somehow change the wheelbase of the car?

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JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:Its a reason, not an excuse.

On topic.

I understand according to a few online sources that the reasons Mercedes are delaying the W03 is because it wants maximum wind tunnel time(as many have already suggested) to maximise the front wing F-duct.
Apparently the design has been knocking around Brackley since their rear wing f-duct was developed.
Since then the design was shown in very basic form around Suzuka during the FP sessions so the team could verify data from their simulation models.

The complexity surrounding the concept forced their hand somewhat in that is was shown sooner than they wanted, but the kick back is that they have verified the data collected.

If it works as well as Mercedes anticipate, Mercedes could be podium contenders out the blocks. There is also alot written about the front ride height adjuster Renault pioneered. Again, a source suggests Mercedes will be sporting this development at the second test, in very developed from.
Great Post JET.. now we just have to sit tight, hope, and pray that all the hard work has paid off.

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