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[SirBastianVettel]

Sainz is that guy who is perfectly capable of 'winning' when the 'main driver' is having an off day. Ferrari have committed a blunder by letting him go. He is not going to perform miracles at Williams, that team will take years to produce a 'winnable car'. Someone of the talent of Sainz not finding a seat in a frontline team, is disaster.

To me this is a bit weird calling it a disaster that someone like Sainz can't get a seat in top team. if he's only capable of winning when the #1 driver in the team is having an off day, then why care if he gets a seat in a top team? You'd think that we (or you in this case) should only care that the top drivers get seats in the top teams, which is the case anyway (Alonso being the only exception currently imo).

[Bill]

sainz is winning because he had a good car probably fastest depending on track ,on sunday during rain he was rubbish and got outqualified by many driver in slower cars including yuki and lawson.

[DDopey]

Yuki qualifying P3 was pretty big. That impressed a few people.

yuki has wrong passport if they is such thing.he led a race last year in Abu dhabi on merit after outqualifying many drivers on the top teams ,so the point is yuki has done many impressive things he shouldn't be in the position to prove himself. With Alonso having many health issues and stroll looking lost maybe he will follow Honda to Aston.

I do not think it is about the passport. I think it is about Honda, Honda has screwed Yuki by leaving RB. There is now no incentive for RB to let Yuki take that second seat.

[JordanMugen]

Perez has scored 48 points since imola

Can the team get a serious driver please

They tried with Gasly, Albon and Perez. What would be a serious driver at this point? Lawson? I doubt he’d do much better than those three. Same for Yuki imo. Colapinto? Just too much of an unknown/risk I think. I honestly don’t know what I’d do if I was in Red Bull’s position.

Spain's Carlos Sainz Jr would be a proven "smooth operator"!

if he's only capable of winning when the #1 driver in the team is having an off day, then why care if he gets a seat in a top team?

That seems unfair, Sainz Jr is far above the level of the likes of Bottas or Perez. Sainz has proven it by beating Norris and Leclerc on points over a season -- not to say that this means Sainz is at the level of Norris or Lecelrc, but Sainz is clearly very good (on average).

sainz is winning because he had a good car probably fastest depending on track

Monaco's Charles Leclerc had the very same car and didn't even finish 2nd in the Mexican GP!

[Jambier]

I think the issue is number of season.

When compare to a top driver, you can’t have for too long the same second driver:

- BOT was worst and worst with HAM
- PER is worst and worst with VER
- VAN an awful last year along ALO

[Vettel165]

Agree a real shame that Red Bull didnt take Sainz to the team. He would have been very consistent, and much quicker then Perez.

[AR3-GP]

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MV: Yeah, well, I mean, of course, that was important. I wanted to, of course, win a bit sooner. But yeah, it's been tough for us. We always kept pushing. We didn't really understand why the others were so fast in the race, especially. Yeah, I've been trying a lot of things to improve the car. And I mean, starting P17 this morning, didn't look like we were going to win the race again. So yeah, it's an incredible result for us. A massive boost for the team, because honestly, it's been tough. But it is also a big strength of the team to stay calm and just try to work on performance and try to improve our situation. And I'm confident. I'm confident for the last three races that we can fight again, and especially in the race that we will be more competitive.

Why? What does he know that we do not?

[chrisc90]

Why? What does he know that we do not?

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[FW17]

Agree a real shame that Red Bull didnt take Sainz to the team. He would have been very consistent, and much quicker then Perez.

Sainz can't drive an over steer car, we saw it in 2022. Jr struggled until he had Mattia change direction of development that suited his style.

[ScuderiaLeo]

sainz is winning because he had a good car probably fastest depending on track ,on sunday during rain he was rubbish and got outqualified by many driver in slower cars including yuki and lawson.

What a ridiculous statement. Sainz is not one of the absolute best drivers on the grid but he's certainly above average. If the choices are Sainz or Perez, unless the team doesn't give a crap about the WCC, they should pick Sainz. There's a reason he has almost double Perez's points. And while Sainz can be crash prone, he's no more crash prone than Perez is lol!

IMO Red Bull might have been worried about Sainz not being a team player. There is no way Sainz would roll over and be Verstappen's guard dog. If he has a chance for a win, he will go for it, even at the cost of Verstappen's race. Maybe this isn't the mentality Red Bull wanted.

[Paa]

Or maybe just Horner thought that 1 toxic father is already more than enough in the pit.
As I understand, back then in their Toro Rosso time, the real issue was not even between Verstappen and Sainz junior, but rather with their fathers and their constant fighting/lobbying.
I can understand that you don't want to handle all of that.

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MV: Yeah, well, I mean, of course, that was important. I wanted to, of course, win a bit sooner. But yeah, it's been tough for us. We always kept pushing. We didn't really understand why the others were so fast in the race, especially. Yeah, I've been trying a lot of things to improve the car. And I mean, starting P17 this morning, didn't look like we were going to win the race again. So yeah, it's an incredible result for us. A massive boost for the team, because honestly, it's been tough. But it is also a big strength of the team to stay calm and just try to work on performance and try to improve our situation. And I'm confident. I'm confident for the last three races that we can fight again, and especially in the race that we will be more competitive.

Why? What does he know that we do not?

Well hopefully it pans out whatever it is

[Ashwinv16]

It's now all but confirmed that Since Perez for the first time will be running the exact same parts Like for like Since Imola (Mainly due to the crash in Monaco (where he still qualified out in Q1 when he had the exact car as Max, but Max struggled to make it as well). Although the teams mentioned many times the difference is not that big (which Perez himself proved with the car he had in Baku). This could be Perez final chance to show if he can drive well. The replaced chassis has already proved to make a huge difference to Perez's Race Pace wise. But this is really his final chance. If Perez can't find pace in Las Vegas. He is 50% out at 2025, 50% cause Lawson is proving to be not that much better than Tsunoda and the 2026 cars will Suit the Understeery driving style that Perez Excels at.

[venkyhere]

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MV: Yeah, well, I mean, of course, that was important. I wanted to, of course, win a bit sooner. But yeah, it's been tough for us. We always kept pushing. We didn't really understand why the others were so fast in the race, especially. Yeah, I've been trying a lot of things to improve the car. And I mean, starting P17 this morning, didn't look like we were going to win the race again. So yeah, it's an incredible result for us. A massive boost for the team, because honestly, it's been tough. But it is also a big strength of the team to stay calm and just try to work on performance and try to improve our situation. And I'm confident. I'm confident for the last three races that we can fight again, and especially in the race that we will be more competitive.

Why? What does he know that we do not?

Mexico was one horrible demonstration of how bad the car is. They must have done something in the setup for Brazil, to make it understeer a bit less (proof that understeer was still present = T4 and T12 in the dry SQ and dry sprint) that made the car 'competitive' in the dry sprint on M tyres.
Question remains -> is the biggest weakness of the car, a.k.a performance on C1/C2/C3 (whatever becomes H depending on the grain & temp of the track) resolved ? That is the elephant in the room. It needn't be the 'fastest car' , atleast it needs to be a 'consistent' car with a relatively consistent pace gap w.r.t the McLaren, ON ALL TYRE COMPOUNDS.

[tinuva]

sainz is winning because he had a good car probably fastest depending on track ,on sunday during rain he was rubbish and got outqualified by many driver in slower cars including yuki and lawson.

What a ridiculous statement. Sainz is not one of the absolute best drivers on the grid but he's certainly above average. If the choices are Sainz or Perez, unless the team doesn't give a crap about the WCC, they should pick Sainz. There's a reason he has almost double Perez's points. And while Sainz can be crash prone, he's no more crash prone than Perez is lol!

IMO Red Bull might have been worried about Sainz not being a team player. There is no way Sainz would roll over and be Verstappen's guard dog. If he has a chance for a win, he will go for it, even at the cost of Verstappen's race. Maybe this isn't the mentality Red Bull wanted.

You forget. Money make companies take decisions different. The wcc is about money, but if there somehow come more from having a specific driver... Then it makes sense why he is kept on.

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