2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Chuckjr
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That kind of talk from Lewis is toxic to team motivation back at the Ferrari factory. There is a way to fail and a way to win. We know the difference, and what is appropriate to a team that is floundering. Lewis will not help in any way in this situation, as he is not tuned to that kind of frequency.

Fred, like I’ve said, this team and his roll are all over his head. It’s too much for him, and he is incapable of leading a guy like Lewis at this declining stage of his career. There is no chemistry in the Lewis side of the Ferrari garage and that will carry right over into 2026 and worsen since Fred is the wrong type leader for this team, and he is clearly incapable of bridging the gap between Lewis and Ferrari. The situation is different than in Fred and Lewis’ relations in lower echelons of racing. It’s why we got the, “We just need to extract more from the car”. All. F-ing. Year. Long. Fred has no answer in other words. He doesn’t know. It’s over his head. He is clueless what to do. It’s now proven fact.

Lewis, well he must have a car that is competitive, if he does not have that, he’s not there to test, and he is not a team motivator in a losing situation, and he has had Road Runners all his Championship years. This is all out of his skill set. Yet, he went to Ferrari, to win. And so that’s why it was a disaster to begin with, and why many saw this in 2024, when he signed. Lewis does not realize or accept his decline. He is living in denial and acting like he’s still his 2018 self. What is happening now is an embarrassment as a result of that denial. He was struggling against King George, and he is struggling with Chuck, who is even better and will continue to improve. Lewis will struggle against any top driver because he is declining.

The hard realization is that, Lewis is no longer champion material, and the question earlier of how long Elkann is going to put up with this nonsense, becomes a fundamental one to Ferrari long term success. Firing Lewis is egg on Elkann’s face, and I don’t think he is man enough to admit a decision that bad. Furthermore, Elkann is not a F1 guy, he’s a public relations billionaire. Elkann is in this for the money / branding, and thought Lewis was the e-ticket. He thought wrong. And now, Lewis is NOT interested in building up a car, or a team, or play second fiddle to Chuck. He is there to win and that is just not going to happen. That is the reality.

Ferrari may well have the second best engine (from rumors) next year (doubt it), but the reality setting in now, is that Lewis will not be able to beat Chuck should Ferrari perform a miracle (they won’t), and so Lewis will become a Barichello. That’s EXACTLY what I suggested in 2024 would happen. Bad car and it’s just more embarrassment, good car is just more embarrassment losing to Chuck. He’s in a no win situation, and we all know Lewis will FLOUNDER in such a position, taking the team down with him 2026, and souring an already acidic environment. Because at the end of the day, Lewis will never admit he is about a half a second off Chuck when it’s all said and done, he didn’t go to Ferrari to play first of the losers.

My suggestion to Ferrari is to bring in Bearman. His youth and newness will fill in the holes of Lewis’ negativity, and would be happy to allow Ferrari to shape him however they want. Bearman would be MORE THAN HAPPY to support Chuck with ZERO expectations and would be downright giddy finishing 2nd, which would be a refreshing glass of water for the Ferrari factory team members. It also would bode well for the team with a single driver supported by a clear #2. They could focus development, and not have to deal with all the whiney nonsense, over-expectations, and my god endless negativity that go with Lewis. He’s cancerous at this point.

Then again, Chuck may just up and leave next year.
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deadhead
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Luscion wrote:
28 Nov 2025, 21:03
Lewis should be punished for showing emotions and giving one word answers, how dare he!..... :roll: :lol:
It just doesn’t fit the “still we rise” mantra and it’s certainly doesn’t fit into the Ferrari brand narrative..

Of course he is allowed to show whatever emotions he likes, but that’s not the point

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It's not really "showing emotions" it's petulant childishness. It's not going his way so he's decided he won't talk to the press. I get it that many of the questions are the same, but you're paid by Ferrari to be a driver and represent the team and sponsors. The interviews and attitude he's displaying are very immature.

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venkyhere
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Forget the car, forget the driving talent, the bare minimum that is expected from Hamilton is him being PROFESSIONAL. It's part of the driver's job to answer media questions ; and the way Hamilton is to the media - the tone, the body language, the expression on his face, all of it conveys :
1. Please have some pity on me, can't you see how a champion like me is made to drive this dogshit car ? The team doesn't know how to make a car
2. This contract is like a gun held to my head, I am forced to drive a car that I don't like, that I want to correct, but these incapables dont listen to me, it will be better for Elkaan to fire me out of this seat.
..all the while raking in the large millions.
I have now started actually HATING this guy. So much arrogance & lack of respect for the job/sport. He has all the time/inclination for having his parties and driving Hollywood stars around the track, make movies, plan sequels to movies etc etc... he is happy outside the cockpit. Yet he ACTS as if his life is miserable in the cockpit and how he is FORCED to live that life. If he has any sort of dedication to Ferrari, he will spend all his time with his engineers in the factory, spend time learning italian, and not have time for all the other 'enjoying life nonsense'. He has his priorities all wrong, and has the GALL to look forlorn and weep in self pity before the media cameras. WHAT A CHARLATAN.




-- rant over ---

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ScuderiaLeo
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Honestly I think most drivers would act the same in Hamilton's situation (in being an accomplished driver on the decline in a team he isn't geling with.) In general, there are plenty of times drivers act short mannered to the press, even some of this season's biggest stars have done it recently...

the main issue is he's next to Leclerc who never seems to get discouraged and is performing better, so it makes Hamilton seem worse in comparison. But in isolation I don't think he's doing anything horribly wrong

He hasn't been rude to them. I understand the critique about team morale and such but it's not like he's being mean to the interviewers or anything. He's just depressed which while I would expect better from him given a) his previous skill level and b) how much he's being paid, it's hardly going to be the make or break factor of the team getting its --- together. They have far bigger problems than 1/2 drivers not giving longer answers

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I don’t remember the same tantrums about Verstappen’s various refusals to talk to the media.

When it’s Alonso doing it…it’s just good old Alonso.

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venkyhere
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There is a big difference between :
1) driver being rude/petulant in the media due to anger/arrogance (we have plenty of examples of those)
v/s
2) 'putting up a depression show / putting up a sad victim face' (I know it's a show because there is relentless happy/joyful activity outside the track , in social media etc. If he was really serious about reviving the car, his driving, his team communication, there is no way he will find time for the other stuff - sacrificing 6 months of social life for rejuvenating one's career isn't such a big deal, if there's clear dedication. Which brings me back to 'why the hell did he decide to prolong his career?' ).

The former is typical bad behavior, the latter is cunning gaslighting.

I respected Hamilton as an individual a lot, especially the way he handled AbuDhabi2021 in the past few years. But this is a clear attempt by him to get Ferrari fire him from his contract, so that he can walk away with big money and not lose his face. It's not just one or two races, but the entire 2025 season so far, where he is fishing for sympathy - HE DOESN'T DESERVE ANY.

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venkyhere wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 12:53
There is a big difference between :
1) driver being rude/petulant in the media due to anger/arrogance (we have plenty of examples of those)
v/s
2) 'putting up a depression show / putting up a sad victim face' (I know it's a show because there is relentless happy/joyful activity outside the track , in social media etc. If he was really serious about reviving the car, his driving, his team communication, there is no way he will find time for the other stuff - sacrificing 6 months of social life for rejuvenating one's career isn't such a big deal, if there's clear dedication. Which brings me back to 'why the hell did he decide to prolong his career?' ).

The former is typical bad behavior, the latter is cunning gaslighting.

I respected Hamilton as an individual a lot, especially the way he handled AbuDhabi2021 in the past few years. But this is a clear attempt by him to get Ferrari fire him from his contract, so that he can walk away with big money and not lose his face. It's not just one or two races, but the entire 2025 season so far, where he is fishing for sympathy - HE DOESN'T DESERVE ANY.
what an ignorant statement, because he finds happiness in other areas him being upset about his performance when he has a bad showing in f1 is just a show, this notion that hes doing too much outside of f1 is the same thing people said when he was in merc, didnt stop him from winning 6 wdc's with them. this has always been Lewis when he isnt performing/fighting for a title, this notion its suddenly an act to get removed from ferrari is so silly

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There’s a lot of hate for him on here, it’s best just to ignore the all knowing posters who have insights into every aspect of the team structure and conversations that take place.

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Jurgen von Diaz
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This is what Elkann was asking for, or did he think that he was hiring the best skills for his car? He hired the most powerful marketing tool, and his entrance to Ferrari was like a new pope being selected. Hamilton even got his own spot in Abu Dhabi 2024 to make donuts, and he was just changing teams.

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Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 15:04
This is what Elkann was asking for, or did he think that he was hiring the best skills for his car? He hired the most powerful marketing tool, and his entrance to Ferrari was like a new pope being selected. Hamilton even got his own spot in Abu Dhabi 2024 to make donuts, and he was just changing teams.
I guess we would all expect the same treatment for Max when he goes to Mercedes...lets see if the Liberty Media dogs are hungry for legacy or just clicks. My bet is on the latter. To be fair, Lewis is never persecuted in this sport. MAX has had far more abuse...

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Jdn1327 wrote:
Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 15:04
This is what Elkann was asking for, or did he think that he was hiring the best skills for his car? He hired the most powerful marketing tool, and his entrance to Ferrari was like a new pope being selected. Hamilton even got his own spot in Abu Dhabi 2024 to make donuts, and he was just changing teams.
I guess we would all expect the same treatment for Max when he goes to Mercedes...lets see if the Liberty Media dogs are hungry for legacy or just clicks. My bet is on the latter. To be fair, Lewis is never persecuted in this sport. MAX has had far more abuse...
I don't think so. Max would go straight home sim racing after Abu Dhabi. He is not the type of guy who enjoys that kind of media fuss.

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venkyhere wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 12:53
There is a big difference between :
1) driver being rude/petulant in the media due to anger/arrogance (we have plenty of examples of those)
v/s
2) 'putting up a depression show / putting up a sad victim face' (I know it's a show because there is relentless happy/joyful activity outside the track , in social media etc. If he was really serious about reviving the car, his driving, his team communication, there is no way he will find time for the other stuff - sacrificing 6 months of social life for rejuvenating one's career isn't such a big deal, if there's clear dedication. Which brings me back to 'why the hell did he decide to prolong his career?' ).

The former is typical bad behavior, the latter is cunning gaslighting.

I respected Hamilton as an individual a lot, especially the way he handled AbuDhabi2021 in the past few years. But this is a clear attempt by him to get Ferrari fire him from his contract, so that he can walk away with big money and not lose his face. It's not just one or two races, but the entire 2025 season so far, where he is fishing for sympathy - HE DOESN'T DESERVE ANY.
I mean, that’s pretty pathetic from you.

He is just someone that is struggling and can’t find solutions. And is probably aware that the thing that has defined his life, might be slipping away.
And also hates the car. Christ, look at the state of it.

Also, he is happy off the track because his general life is happy. Unless you expect him to sit in a dark room all day, weeping. Come on, grow up

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They are the 8th or 9th slowest car on pace. WTF???!!! The only car Ferrari are definitely quicker than is Alpine!!! :shock: