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[BassVirolla]

Simply put, Hamilton doesn't seem like these tough characters.

As BassVirolla so intelligently puts it, [...]

If you are going to be sarcastic about my intelligence (mods: subtle insulting maybe?) at least stay on topic about my post and please, tell us when Hamilton delivered with subpar machinery and / or without competing for the highest spots?

[CMSMJ1]

Simply put, Hamilton doesn't seem like these tough characters.

As BassVirolla so intelligently puts it, [...]

If you are going to be sarcastic about my intelligence (mods: subtle insulting maybe?) at least stay on topic and please, tell us when Hamilton delivered with subpar machinery.

Not commenting on the strange "mods*" tag... But if you are the one making the assertion that Lewis sometimes didn't put the effort in .. Then please bring the evidence/races/seasons even?

It's fully patronising to ask when someone really started watching/living the F1 life but your question about when Lewis delivered in subpar machinery is really missing the mark

You'll have to remind us, but was it not Lewis that had won a race every season, regardless of the quality of the car, up until a couple years ago (2022)? **

How does that stand up over a fifteen year period? Has anyone else got anywhere close to that, ever? Did he have the best car every year?


* I think he's agreeing with you.. But if you want the mods to look at something then report it.

** I'll go and have a word with myself about the dreaded fanboism (though I'm not a driver person since Ayrton)

[BassVirolla]

As BassVirolla so intelligently puts it, [...]

If you are going to be sarcastic about my intelligence (mods: subtle insulting maybe?) at least stay on topic and please, tell us when Hamilton delivered with subpar machinery.

Not commenting on the strange "mods*" tag... But if you are the one making the assertion that Lewis sometimes didn't put the effort in .. Then please bring the evidence/races/seasons even?

It's fully patronising to ask when someone really started watching/living the F1 life but your question about when Lewis delivered in subpar machinery is really missing the mark

You'll have to remind us, but was it not Lewis that had won a race every season, regardless of the quality of the car, up until a couple years ago (2022)? **

How does that stand up over a fifteen year period? Has anyone else got anywhere close to that, ever? Did he have the best car every year?


* I think he's agreeing with you.. But if you want the mods to look at something then report it.

** I'll go and have a word with myself about the dreaded fanboism (though I'm not a driver person since Ayrton)

Exactly my point. Possibly his worst car until '22 was the 2012 McLaren, and even it finished the campaign in third WCC.

Hamilton has had to deal with little time in the midfield or with the backmarkers.

Never, ever, I will deny that, when in a capable car, Hamilton is among the best. But I think that (better, right?) he lacks motivation when not in the top spots.

Nevertheless, I will not retrieve team radios in which he wanted to retire the car out of thin air or interviews in which he felt like had forgot how to drive fast.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Forgot to point out that they tested a new steering wheel today. People pointed out the shape looks similar to the Hypercar one (the image from the 2nd tweet is of the 499P)





Also both Ham and Lec mentioned bouncing as a big problem after FP2 in their interviews

[CMSMJ1]

If you are going to be sarcastic about my intelligence (mods: subtle insulting maybe?) at least stay on topic and please, tell us when Hamilton delivered with subpar machinery.

Not commenting on the strange "mods*" tag... But if you are the one making the assertion that Lewis sometimes didn't put the effort in .. Then please bring the evidence/races/seasons even?

It's fully patronising to ask when someone really started watching/living the F1 life but your question about when Lewis delivered in subpar machinery is really missing the mark

You'll have to remind us, but was it not Lewis that had won a race every season, regardless of the quality of the car, up until a couple years ago (2022)? **

How does that stand up over a fifteen year period? Has anyone else got anywhere close to that, ever? Did he have the best car every year?


* I think he's agreeing with you.. But if you want the mods to look at something then report it.

** I'll go and have a word with myself about the dreaded fanboism (though I'm not a driver person since Ayrton)

Exactly my point. Possibly his worst car until '22 was the 2012 McLaren, and even it finished the campaign in third WCC.

Hamilton has had to deal with little time in the midfield or with the backmarkers.

Never, ever, I will deny that, when in a capable car, Hamilton is among the best. But I think that (better, right?) he lacks motivation when not in the top spots.

Nevertheless, I will not retrieve team radios in which he wanted to retire the car out of thin air or interviews in which he felt like had forgot how to drive fast.

Agree with your last paragraph. He does seem very down sometimes but maybe he can see that the ability to overcome a vehicle deficit is harder so accepts it. I personally think these cars are devastatingly fast, but terrible to race

Some years though, he had a poor car and it was tough but some days he really did outshine the car.

I think with a sniff of a win he can do it next year.

[ScuderiaLeo]

So you know how Vasseur was just talking about Ferrari struggling when the tire pressures are increased before Quali? They raised the front pressure by 1psi today compared to yesterday

[Farnborough]

Is the reference to Qatar data intended ?

[Farnborough]

Not commenting on the strange "mods*" tag... But if you are the one making the assertion that Lewis sometimes didn't put the effort in .. Then please bring the evidence/races/seasons even?

It's fully patronising to ask when someone really started watching/living the F1 life but your question about when Lewis delivered in subpar machinery is really missing the mark

You'll have to remind us, but was it not Lewis that had won a race every season, regardless of the quality of the car, up until a couple years ago (2022)? **

How does that stand up over a fifteen year period? Has anyone else got anywhere close to that, ever? Did he have the best car every year?


* I think he's agreeing with you.. But if you want the mods to look at something then report it.

** I'll go and have a word with myself about the dreaded fanboism (though I'm not a driver person since Ayrton)

Exactly my point. Possibly his worst car until '22 was the 2012 McLaren, and even it finished the campaign in third WCC.

Hamilton has had to deal with little time in the midfield or with the backmarkers.

Never, ever, I will deny that, when in a capable car, Hamilton is among the best. But I think that (better, right?) he lacks motivation when not in the top spots.

Nevertheless, I will not retrieve team radios in which he wanted to retire the car out of thin air or interviews in which he felt like had forgot how to drive fast.

Agree with your last paragraph. He does seem very down sometimes but maybe he can see that the ability to overcome a vehicle deficit is harder so accepts it. I personally think these cars are devastatingly fast, but terrible to race

Some years though, he had a poor car and it was tough but some days he really did outshine the car.

I think with a sniff of a win he can do it next year.

Its something that ultimately comes from being in a car that's not in possession of competitive delivery.

For that, I'd define one that could finish reliably in the first for places week in, week out. No claim of dominant platform, but genuine competitive status.
Like Alonso, Hamilton has got himself into a car that can't ultimately deliver that, right now. That's irrespective of the commercial/desirability of this team etc that led to his and their desire to get together.

Both these two are very similar in respect of something specific, that if they can't see a longer term positive situation on their horizon, then they both react in the same way/attitude/pronouncements to public ears. Both trying to generate, in their support/team a reaction that shifts the decision making and effect that may produce. That's a stance that some may dislike, it is obvious byproduct though of being hemmed in by looking at where they are going on their journey. No surprise in other words.
Just the words Hamilton used ad AD2016 when he can see the prognosis staring him in the face, illustration of that realisation that there's almost nothing he can do about it, at that point. This is not criticism, just observation of what ultimately drives his (and Alonso's) public output. Certainly understandable given their achievement history.

I'd be unsure if Ferrari can deliver what's needed next year, given their history since the MS golden tech team dispersed.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Is the reference to Qatar data intended ?

Sorry I linked the wrong image! fixed

[Farnborough]

Looks like the +1psi has just gone on the fronts, and not rear tyres.

We'll see in FP3 the if there's much concern. They do have a increased camber to use both ends this weekend. It could be positive or negative effect overall, and different from team to team.

[deadhead]

The way Leclerc has handled this atrocious car over the season is absolutely incredible

[clownfish]

Just caught up with Ant Davidson's look at the Hamilton spin in FP3. Looks like he took too much kerb on entry, the car also looked to me like it was bottoming later in the corner. Both drivers were complaining about bouncing but I'm not sure if they meant porpoising or bottoming over bumps.

Link -
(might be uk only)

[Badger]

Let's be a bit positive. Hamilton went from P20 last race to P18. Could P16 be on the cards in AD?

[SB15]

again...

[ScuderiaLeo]

Just caught up with Ant Davidson's look at the Hamilton spin in FP3. Looks like he took too much kerb on entry, the car also looked to me like it was bottoming later in the corner. Both drivers were complaining about bouncing but I'm not sure if they meant porpoising or bottoming over bumps.

Can't see the video but after FP2 they were complaining about porpoising specifically.

Unsurprisingly seems to have damaged Hamilton's confidence. He lost almost 7 tenths in S3 but he was also down 1.5 tenths on Leclerc in S1. He apologized on the radio to the team

Not sure why they took a medium set for the first runs.