I believe this was his final Q3 lap
Edit: I was wrong, this is his Q2 lap
A few scary moments in S3!!!
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Following his sensational lap in Saturday's qualifying which saw Charles Leclerc claim a shock pole position for Ferrari, the Monegasque endured a heartbreaking result at the Hungarian Grand Prix despite his impressive pace during his first two stints of the race. F1Technical's senior writer Balazs Szabo delivers his latest analysis in his column branded as F1MATHS.
Scariest was T9.ScuderiaLeo wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 18:45I believe this was his final Q3 lap
A few scary moments in S3!!!
What were the poor cars he drove? A spec 2009 McLaren and?CMSMJ1 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 01:33Agree with your last paragraph. He does seem very down sometimes but maybe he can see that the ability to overcome a vehicle deficit is harder so accepts it. I personally think these cars are devastatingly fast, but terrible to raceBassVirolla wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 01:00Exactly my point. Possibly his worst car until '22 was the 2012 McLaren, and even it finished the campaign in third WCC.CMSMJ1 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 00:28
Not commenting on the strange "mods*" tag... But if you are the one making the assertion that Lewis sometimes didn't put the effort in .. Then please bring the evidence/races/seasons even?
It's fully patronising to ask when someone really started watching/living the F1 life but your question about when Lewis delivered in subpar machinery is really missing the mark
You'll have to remind us, but was it not Lewis that had won a race every season, regardless of the quality of the car, up until a couple years ago (2022)? **
How does that stand up over a fifteen year period? Has anyone else got anywhere close to that, ever? Did he have the best car every year?
* I think he's agreeing with you.. But if you want the mods to look at something then report it.
** I'll go and have a word with myself about the dreaded fanboism (though I'm not a driver person since Ayrton)
Hamilton has had to deal with little time in the midfield or with the backmarkers.
Never, ever, I will deny that, when in a capable car, Hamilton is among the best. But I think that (better, right?) he lacks motivation when not in the top spots.
Nevertheless, I will not retrieve team radios in which he wanted to retire the car out of thin air or interviews in which he felt like had forgot how to drive fast.
Some years though, he had a poor car and it was tough but some days he really did outshine the car.
I think with a sniff of a win he can do it next year.
Do you even realize how silly this all sounds? He developed the car from a sprint win in early in the season in China to 3 consecutive q1 exits in the final 3 races.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 17:05Hamilton's car developing skills showing again. Lovely!
The new steering wheel has the same DNA as the ones he developed at McLaren brought to Mercedes and now to Ferrari. Very good. It shows the team is listening. Should make a minor difference to the driver. I wonder if Leclerc would like a spin on it. Lets see for 2026.
i swear people just come in the thread to hate. The SF-25 development was stopped all the way back in April, there was no development besides the two floors they already had in the pipeline, theyre still using the launch spec rear wings and only made a modification to the front wing to comply with the fia flexi wing crackdown. Lewis had a big hand in developing Merc's steering wheel and the article also credits the new ferrari design in part to himnapoleon1981 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2025, 06:47Do you even realize how silly this all sounds? He developed the car from a sprint win in early in the season in China to 3 consecutive q1 exits in the final 3 races.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 17:05Hamilton's car developing skills showing again. Lovely!
The new steering wheel has the same DNA as the ones he developed at McLaren brought to Mercedes and now to Ferrari. Very good. It shows the team is listening. Should make a minor difference to the driver. I wonder if Leclerc would like a spin on it. Lets see for 2026.
As for the steering wheel.... thats not developing, thats copying.
Leclerc is a better driver than Alesi. I think even Alesi himself would admit that, he always has lots of praise for Leclerc. But similar vibes perhapsChuckjr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2025, 07:21He's an avid Ham fan. That's all you need to know to understand.
Leclerc is driving the holy hell out of this pos car. Incredibly impressive. Truly. Pinning that turd to 5th is something to behold. Epic. 100% him. He's underpaid compared to his teammate.
It's truly sad to see such a talent like Leclerc stuck in the cars he has been stuck in for years and years now. Ferrari is not a real racing team anymore. It's a brand. An image to uphold and profit from. A drama to direct. A saga to market. When Ferrari get serious about racing they will stop bowing to the merchandizing god and let the team run itself. I know many here hate Montezemolo or even Dennis at Macca, but there is something to be said for a team run under a tyrant. They get the friggin' job done. It is so incredibly hard to stomach what is happening. LeClerc=Alesi 2.0.
I implore you to seriously consider what the scope of car (and team) development is and the roles of the driver that are integral to that. There is a great thread we have on this somewhere... I'm too tired of doing it over the years so I really won't speak further on how a driver develops a car (and the team!) so I'm just encouraging people to do some research here.napoleon1981 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2025, 06:47Do you even realize how silly this all sounds? He developed the car from a sprint win in early in the season in China to 3 consecutive q1 exits in the final 3 races.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 17:05Hamilton's car developing skills showing again. Lovely!
The new steering wheel has the same DNA as the ones he developed at McLaren brought to Mercedes and now to Ferrari. Very good. It shows the team is listening. Should make a minor difference to the driver. I wonder if Leclerc would like a spin on it. Lets see for 2026.
As for the steering wheel.... thats not developing, thats copying.
Why are you slamming my new team so badly Chuck?Chuckjr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2025, 07:21He's an avid Ham fan. That's all you need to know to understand.
Leclerc is driving the holy hell out of this pos car. Incredibly impressive. Truly. Pinning that turd to 5th is something to behold. Epic. 100% him. He's underpaid compared to his teammate.
It's truly sad to see such a talent like Leclerc stuck in the cars he has been stuck in for years and years now. Ferrari is not a real racing team anymore. It's a brand. An image to uphold and profit from. A drama to direct. A saga to market. When Ferrari get serious about racing they will stop bowing to the merchandizing god and let the team run itself. I know many here hate Montezemolo or even Dennis at Macca, but there is something to be said for a team run under a tyrant. They get the friggin' job done. It is so incredibly hard to stomach what is happening. LeClerc=Alesi 2.0.
We will make Ferrari great again!
He’s just trolling usScuderiaLeo wrote: ↑07 Dec 2025, 01:57Curiously Leclerc said the SF-25 was only the 2nd most difficult Ferrari he's driven. I wonder what's the first?
Starting from 2000 to now there has only been 3 (three!) seasons McLaren ended up in a better WCC position than Ferrari. Two of them being last year and this year obviously when McLaren FINALLY started getting the friggin’ job done.Chuckjr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2025, 07:21He's an avid Ham fan. That's all you need to know to understand.
Leclerc is driving the holy hell out of this pos car. Incredibly impressive. Truly. Pinning that turd to 5th is something to behold. Epic. 100% him. He's underpaid compared to his teammate.
It's truly sad to see such a talent like Leclerc stuck in the cars he has been stuck in for years and years now. Ferrari is not a real racing team anymore. It's a brand. An image to uphold and profit from. A drama to direct. A saga to market. When Ferrari get serious about racing they will stop bowing to the merchandizing god and let the team run itself. I know many here hate Montezemolo or even Dennis at Macca, but there is something to be said for a team run under a tyrant. They get the friggin' job done. It is so incredibly hard to stomach what is happening. LeClerc=Alesi 2.0.
