Mercedes AMG F1 W03 (pre-launch speculation)

[ForMuLaOne]

What do you think? Is this "F-Duct" supposed to deliver drag reduction while having an attached airflow, or drag reduction caused by stalling the wing. I mean, do they want to avoid boundary layers or do they want the airflow to deattach.

To me it seems to follow this principle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blown_flap

Nice data on aircrafts

"In general, blown flaps can improve the lift of a wing by two to three times. Whereas a complex triple-slotted flap system on a Boeing 747 delivers a coefficient of lift of about 2.8, external blowing improves this to about 7, and internal blowing to 9"


And another question i asked before( Maybe Scarbs will read this as well ) Is it possible to have a perforated bodywork,like really tiny holes (0,1 mm)? Cause you could use the suction at the back of the car to suck off boundary layers as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundary_layer_suction

[xpensive]

I can't believe this, do you seriously think that MGP/AMG would yet again pin their hopes to that magic bullet?

Naah, I xpect the W03 to take the safe and conventional route to the podium.

[ForMuLaOne]

I can't believe this, do you seriously think that MGP/AMG would yet again pin their hopes to that magic bullet?

Naah, I xpect the W03 to take the safe and conventional route to the podium.

Believe it or not, it works on bigger scale systems....the gain is huge...so i would pin my hopes to that not so magic device if i was trying to gain advantage.....

[Crucial_Xtreme]

I can't believe this, do you seriously think that MGP/AMG would yet again pin their hopes to that magic bullet?

Naah, I xpect the W03 to take the safe and conventional route to the podium.

Just because they implement it doesn't mean they're pinning their hopes all on one thing. They tested it last year for a reason and most people believe it to be legal. I'm sure they will have a version of the Lotus RRHS too. Maybe they use the FW F-duct, maybe they don't. Either way I don't think it means they're putting all their eggs in one basket.

[hardingfv32]

[Sure. Im certain that the rule applies to the bodywork of the car.

But what about the pylons or the wing itself? Apertures cannot be over ruled in this area as all cars would then have single element basic wings.
Pylons can house apertures too.

3.7.8 applies to everything within its boundaries unless a specific object has its own section. You will not fined a separate section on the front wing. If you had never seen a winged race car before, you might not appreciate that wings are used from reading these rules.

Brian

[Cocles]

Any cameras or camera housings approved by the FIA in addition to a single inlet aperture for the purpose of driver cooling (such aperture having a maximum projected surface area of 1500mm2 and being situated forward of the section referred to in Article 15.4.3) will be exempt from the above.

"...for the purpose of driver cooling" But it doesn't say for the EXCLUSIVE purpose. That could be the loop hole Merc is using. As long as some of that air is going into the driver's compartment they could be fine. Or perhaps they're using a different work around as discussed here.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

What of this aperture?

[beelsebob]

What of this aperture?

That would cause their front wing to be pretty chunky, as all the edges would need the 5mm rounding, and then space for the slot in between too.

[MercAMGF1Fans]

hi guys, here is some changes i did on the w02, i think the w03 won't be too different from it:



lower nose, new length, up poited exhausts + some details

that's BRILLIANT

[xpensive]

Just because they implement it doesn't mean they're pinning their hopes all on one thing.
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Needless to say, but if JET's sources are correct, they have delayed the car to the xtent they will miss the first test because of this gizmo, I'd say they are again out on a wild goose chase. I think they should focus on a decent baseline car and take it from there, such tricks are most often quickly copied and bettered by the competition anyway if it works.

Just look at the Lotus suspension, JET says Mercedes are already copying it, Costa is probably improving it at that.

[yace]

thank you guys!

Sorry, but this is not a very good way to compare and contrast the cars. For one, the angle of almost every picture is different, and the RB7 (which seems to be the subject of length discussions) is also larger in proportion to the other cars.

you're right, the wheels of the rb are a little bit bigger than the ones of the mclaren. the scale of the 2 cars is not the same

[raymondu999]

Considering I was the one rabbiting on about scales/angles/parallax; I have to admit that seems to be a fairly small; albeit not negligible; mis-scaling. But again; it proves my point that the picture isn't 100% reliable.

Btw yace - that W03 mockup you made looks absolutely fantastic. Well done mate.

[Gaara]

Mercedes working on Lotus braking idea

http://www.f1zone.net/news/mercedes-wor ... dea/11539/

[Mr.S]

hi guys, here is some changes i did on the w02, i think the w03 won't be too different from it:



lower nose, new length, up poited exhausts + some details

Fantastic. I want newer sidepods though,I like how the nose cone is shaped though.

Although W03 should be longer,with EBD gone I doubt if it should be that long. Fantastic drawing none the less.

[jrobson]

Great thread! I was curious about what news there are for Mercedes then ended up going through the whole thing.

Has anyone else noticed last year RBR generally ran lower gear ratio's, sometimes much lower(Monza)? I don't think this was only tied to their EBD either, it is better to get up to a lower speed fast than to get a high speed but take more time to get to the opponents lower speed (except when being overtaken). Perhaps their long wheelbase high downforce(and high drag for that matter) flattered the concept.