Silly Season 2020/2021 (starting with silliness in 2019)

[selvam_e2002]

I don't agree. The car is good, without Lecrec, vettel could gained those 7 poles. and even with kimi partnership, they may fight for WCC till last race in 2019.

Vettel and Lecrec are same. I don't see any difference with their talent.

We only know when Lecrec challenging for WDC and how he reacts in critical situation.

He is fighting for his team mate Vettel to make sure he will get Number 1 in Ferrari. He is not thinking about team, he is thinking about him self and Vettel also thinking same. So, we will see same repeat of 2019.

Binotto is total looser and he is not good at people management.

I am afraid of Lecrec future at Ferrari after 2024 if he does not get WCC(which I doubt). He is the one who suffer a lot compared to Vettel.

[izzy]

I don't agree. The car is good, without Lecrec, vettel could gained those 7 poles. and even with kimi partnership, they may fight for WCC till last race in 2019.

Vettel and Lecrec are same. I don't see any difference with their talent.

We only know when Lecrec challenging for WDC and how he reacts in critical situation.

He is fighting for his team mate Vettel to make sure he will get Number 1 in Ferrari. He is not thinking about team, he is thinking about him self and Vettel also thinking same. So, we will see same repeat of 2019.

Binotto is total looser and he is not good at people management.

I am afraid of Lecrec future at Ferrari after 2024 if he does not get WCC(which I doubt). He is the one who suffer a lot compared to Vettel.

Charles has already taken over as No1 from Seb, that's why he's signed thru 2024 and Seb isn't. Seb was alright once they fixed the rear end instability under brakes, but Charles could just deal with it. It was Seb who made 3 huge mistakes in races, while Charles was giving Max as good as he got, huge in the opposite direction. Ferrari always had a driver disadvantage after the hardcase idiot Marco Mattiacci lost it with Fernando and now at last they don't any more

Mattia has kept it all friendly between Seb and Charles, that's a massive achievement imo! None of the TP's has a great record with getting their drivers to be nice boys on track after all, and evidently he gave Charles a telling off after Monza qualy that's why he said he was forgiven

[Manoah2u]

So supposedly Hamilton wants 60 million annually for his next 2-year contract (2021+2022) with a total of 120 million,
which is a whopping amount. Not that Mercedes doesn't have that money, but it's claimed that they offered him
45 million annually (90 in total) which is 15 million less each year. Mercedes' big boss has stated they want to shave down
their expenses a total of 1 billion by 2022, and this would conflict with their intentions.

Though i can't imagine Mercedes will pass on Lewis in the end, i must say, it would be bonkers if Mercedes would let Lewis
go for 15 million a year. They could lose a lot more money if they don't keep him.

The biggest question now then would be: Would Ferrari offer 60 million a year?

[f1jcw]

So supposedly Hamilton wants 60 million annually for his next 2-year contract (2021+2022) with a total of 120 million,
which is a whopping amount. Not that Mercedes doesn't have that money, but it's claimed that they offered him
45 million annually (90 in total) which is 15 million less each year. Mercedes' big boss has stated they want to shave down
their expenses a total of 1 billion by 2022, and this would conflict with their intentions.

Though i can't imagine Mercedes will pass on Lewis in the end, i must say, it would be bonkers if Mercedes would let Lewis
go for 15 million a year. They could lose a lot more money if they don't keep him.

The biggest question now then would be: Would Ferrari offer 60 million a year?

Lewis doesn’t really have anywhere else to go, I’m a Lewis fan but against over the top greed unless it’s a negotiation ploy, especially when in 2021 the budget cut could mean many in the industry losing their jobs

[NathanOlder]

So supposedly Hamilton wants 60 million annually for his next 2-year contract (2021+2022) with a total of 120 million,
which is a whopping amount. Not that Mercedes doesn't have that money, but it's claimed that they offered him
45 million annually (90 in total) which is 15 million less each year. Mercedes' big boss has stated they want to shave down
their expenses a total of 1 billion by 2022, and this would conflict with their intentions.

Though i can't imagine Mercedes will pass on Lewis in the end, i must say, it would be bonkers if Mercedes would let Lewis
go for 15 million a year. They could lose a lot more money if they don't keep him.

The biggest question now then would be: Would Ferrari offer 60 million a year?

Lewis doesn’t really have anywhere else to go, I’m a Lewis fan but against over the top greed unless it’s a negotiation ploy, especially when in 2021 the budget cut could mean many in the industry losing their jobs

Ferrari still have a seat available. If Ferrari sign Lewis to partner Charles, they would have the strongest driver pairing by a mile on the grid. Only If RedBull sign Ricciardo could any team claim to have an equally strong line up.

[Wass85]

Lewis wants to be careful biting the hand that feeds him.

I thought it's all about the legacy now and not the money, don't be so greedy and go and break those records.

It will come to a point where Mercedes will be thinking, old on a minute our number two would have been champion if it wasn't for Hamilton.

There's a handful of drivers out there that would bring home the titles for a much cheaper price.

[izzy]

Last time there was a story about Lewis supposedly being greedy it turned out he was actually getting the dangerous sports clause deleted

[NathanOlder]

Last time there was a story about Lewis supposedly being greedy it turned out he was actually getting the dangerous sports clause deleted

I never knew that,

Also what people need to remember is, if Lewis was in the Ferrari in 17 and 18, I'd bet a large amount on him winning at least 1 of those titles. His perfect driving and all other drivers making mistakes would have certainly changed the championship. The 2nd mercedes finished 3rd and 5th in those 2 seasons. So having Lewis was essential. Seb drove awful in 17 and 18 and still finished runner up. Merc needed Lewis.

with the regs for 2021 looking to bring the cars closer than ever, a top top driver is even more valuable. Hence why Lewis is worth what he asks.

[Just_a_fan]

It's negotiation 101: go in higher than you'll be happy with and let them knock you down to what you're both happy with.

So he wants £45m, asks for £60m , let's them knock him down to £45m. He's happy, they're happy, everyone's happy.

[Just_a_fan]

There's a handful of drivers out there that would bring home the titles for a much cheaper price.

Hamilton is 100% box office, as Bernie said. That's worth plenty of salary alone.

[izzy]

I never knew that,

Also what people need to remember is, if Lewis was in the Ferrari in 17 and 18, I'd bet a large amount on him winning at least 1 of those titles. His perfect driving and all other drivers making mistakes would have certainly changed the championship. The 2nd mercedes finished 3rd and 5th in those 2 seasons. So having Lewis was essential. Seb drove awful in 17 and 18 and still finished runner up. Merc needed Lewis.

with the regs for 2021 looking to bring the cars closer than ever, a top top driver is even more valuable. Hence why Lewis is worth what he asks.

yes and this year too, it's almost like Lewis=championships and what's that worth?? On top of we all like to talk about him ALL the time . Toto carelessly mentioning the team's advertising equivalent value was $3.5 Billion. Lol.

but about 10 people in the entire world know what the figures actually are and none of them are talking to those fake 'sports news' advertising sites

[Wass85]

There's a handful of drivers out there that would bring home the titles for a much cheaper price.

Hamilton is 100% box office, as Bernie said. That's worth plenty of salary alone.

The team only care about winning, remember you said that when I mentioned they should be box office by bringing in an Alonso.

[Just_a_fan]

There's a handful of drivers out there that would bring home the titles for a much cheaper price.

Hamilton is 100% box office, as Bernie said. That's worth plenty of salary alone.

The team only care about winning, remember you said that when I mentioned they should be box office by bringing in an Alonso.

Box office only requires one star driver. Two star drivers makes problems as already explained ad nauseum.

[Big Tea]

I have a feeling (no more than that)that a combination of Red Bull and Honda would happily cough up the asking price for Hamilton. Not only would it be a huge plus in their team, but a mountain removed from infront of Red Bull Honda winning the championship.

[Wass85]

Hamilton is 100% box office, as Bernie said. That's worth plenty of salary alone.

The team only care about winning, remember you said that when I mentioned they should be box office by bringing in an Alonso.

Box office only requires one star driver. Two star drivers makes problems as already explained ad nauseum.

That's the point, teams are not after box office like you said they are only after winning titles.