2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[mwillems]

On a random note, I just watched Hobbs and Shaw, parts were filmed both inside and outside the Mclaren Technology centre.

[Ground Effect]

James Key must be relishing the different challenge he has in McLaren. Interesting article, I just hope we don't get another 2013.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-p ... hallenger/

[Big Tea]

James Key must be relishing the different challenge he has in McLaren. Interesting article, I just hope we don't get another 2013.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-p ... hallenger/

I hope they do not make too radical a change after so many (small but) forwards steps this year.

He says ~“So, I think fundamentally we won’t change the numbers surrounding it, but conceptually it will change a little bit.”~
But it was only small steps that brought Mclaren to where they are ans a very small backward step could easily see them slide 3 or 4 places back.

I know they have to run to stand still and would be swamped without changes, but it is still a concern

[the EDGE]

James Key must be relishing the different challenge he has in McLaren. Interesting article, I just hope we don't get another 2013.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-p ... hallenger/

I hope they do not make too radical a change after so many (small but) forwards steps this year.

He says ~“So, I think fundamentally we won’t change the numbers surrounding it, but conceptually it will change a little bit.”~
But it was only small steps that brought Mclaren to where they are ans a very small backward step could easily see them slide 3 or 4 places back.

I know they have to run to stand still and would be swamped without changes, but it is still a concern

If their conceptual changes are dues to what they have learned from this years car then where’s the drama?

Let’s not forget they’re still 1sec a lap down on pace in race trim alone, even more on Saturdays, so something still needs to change

[M840TR]

James Key must be relishing the different challenge he has in McLaren. Interesting article, I just hope we don't get another 2013.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-p ... hallenger/

I hope they do not make too radical a change after so many (small but) forwards steps this year.

He says ~“So, I think fundamentally we won’t change the numbers surrounding it, but conceptually it will change a little bit.”~
But it was only small steps that brought Mclaren to where they are ans a very small backward step could easily see them slide 3 or 4 places back.

I know they have to run to stand still and would be swamped without changes, but it is still a concern

If their conceptual changes are dues to what they have learned from this years car then where’s the drama?

Let’s not forget they’re still 1sec a lap down on pace in race trim alone, even more on Saturdays, so something still needs to change

Actually, I'd say most mid-fielders including Mclaren have a worse race pace than quali. Plenty of factors behind this obviously but the most significant one is probably the tyre management.

[the EDGE]

I hope they do not make too radical a change after so many (small but) forwards steps this year.

He says ~“So, I think fundamentally we won’t change the numbers surrounding it, but conceptually it will change a little bit.”~
But it was only small steps that brought Mclaren to where they are ans a very small backward step could easily see them slide 3 or 4 places back.

I know they have to run to stand still and would be swamped without changes, but it is still a concern

If their conceptual changes are dues to what they have learned from this years car then where’s the drama?

Let’s not forget they’re still 1sec a lap down on pace in race trim alone, even more on Saturdays, so something still needs to change

Actually, I'd say most mid-fielders including Mclaren have a worse race pace than quali. Plenty of factors behind this obviously but the most significant one is probably the tyre management.

I’ve never herd anyone suggest, nor seen any evidence that McLaren have tyre issues. They even voted to keep the current range when others wanted a change. Now Hass is a team with tyre struggles, that’s plain and simple to see.

As far as I am aware McLaren simply lack efficient downforce, they have some... more than others, but still along way from top 3 (relatively speaking of course)

[mwillems]

If their conceptual changes are dues to what they have learned from this years car then where’s the drama?

Let’s not forget they’re still 1sec a lap down on pace in race trim alone, even more on Saturdays, so something still needs to change

Actually, I'd say most mid-fielders including Mclaren have a worse race pace than quali. Plenty of factors behind this obviously but the most significant one is probably the tyre management.

I’ve never herd anyone suggest, nor seen any evidence that McLaren have tyre issues. They even voted to keep the current range when others wanted a change. Now Hass is a team with tyre struggles, that’s plain and simple to see.

As far as I am aware McLaren simply lack efficient downforce, they have some... more than others, but still along way from top 3 (relatively speaking of course)

I don't think he is suggesting they have tyre issues, just that with less downforce the tyre wear is naturally higher than a leading team, hence a greater race drop off.

Personally I feel it's a bit hard to tell, I feel like there have been races when we have been aggressive and not had to compromise our strategy.

[mwillems]

James Key must be relishing the different challenge he has in McLaren. Interesting article, I just hope we don't get another 2013.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-p ... hallenger/

I hope they do not make too radical a change after so many (small but) forwards steps this year.

He says ~“So, I think fundamentally we won’t change the numbers surrounding it, but conceptually it will change a little bit.”~
But it was only small steps that brought Mclaren to where they are ans a very small backward step could easily see them slide 3 or 4 places back.

I know they have to run to stand still and would be swamped without changes, but it is still a concern

I just have a feeling that they will be looking at the front and mid wing for next year. I wonder what Key knows about this years RB solution and how it can aid Mclaren.

[Morteza]

[marmer]

https://youtu.be/zTaWZ-ECG2Q

Got to love lando

[M840TR]

James Key must be relishing the different challenge he has in McLaren. Interesting article, I just hope we don't get another 2013.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-p ... hallenger/

I hope they do not make too radical a change after so many (small but) forwards steps this year.

He says ~“So, I think fundamentally we won’t change the numbers surrounding it, but conceptually it will change a little bit.”~
But it was only small steps that brought Mclaren to where they are ans a very small backward step could easily see them slide 3 or 4 places back.

I know they have to run to stand still and would be swamped without changes, but it is still a concern

I just have a feeling that they will be looking at the front and mid wing for next year. I wonder what Key knows about this years RB solution and how it can aid Mclaren.

Probably a tighter packaging with revised intercoolers and maybe a raised rear suspension/transmission setup for creating space for low-pressure area over diffuser. I don't expect significantly radical changes to the front wing however; if they can devise a clever & effective front suspension without excessively biasing the front wing for downforce then the tapered arrangement won't do much harm.

[RonDennis]

I think they viewed this year also as learning proces and probably made some changes that were maybe a bit too extreme after their terrible 2018. The chassis department clearly did a good job for this year, so have some faith. I also still believe that the 2017 McLaren was a very good car.

[diffuser]

I think they viewed this year also as learning proces and probably made some changes that were maybe a bit too extreme after their terrible 2018. The chassis department clearly did a good job for this year, so have some faith. I also still believe that the 2017 McLaren was a very good car.

Yeah, you go backwards by standing still. So you need to move forward and have faith.

I agree with 840s suggestion of tightening of the area behind the driver. Creating more of a taper.

I suspect we'll see front suspension changes (cause of all the testing we've seen) and a double decker barge board wing.

I agree we will not see much on a change of front wing.

[SmallSoldier]

It seems that Mclaren doesn’t have the expected pace in Sochi... It’s only practice and I’m sure there is more to be found before Qualifying, but they may be missing a golden opportunity for points in Russia since both RBR’s will probably start in 10-11th position.

Was expecting more today.


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[chrisgr]

It seems that Mclaren doesn’t have the expected pace in Sochi... It’s only practice and I’m sure there is more to be found before Qualifying, but they may be missing a golden opportunity for points in Russia since both RBR’s will probably start in 10-11th position.

Was expecting more today.
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I wouldn't be so pessimistic. Mclaren has been like this, during free practices, for many gps. I would wait for the qualifying before I make any conclusions.