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[lio007]

Wow...must have been quite a disappointing stewards meeting yesterday for Max in terms of GR: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vers ... /10678443/

[organic]

The tyre deg issue seems to be solved, balance seems to be good. The hard compound issue does not seem to be solved. McLaren definitely seemed faster on the hard.

Yeah unfortunately that's just a car characteristic I expect. Unfortunately this season it seems that a lot of tracks ended up as medium-hard one stoppers. The hard tyres have never worked that well on the rb20

[PierreW]

Wow...must have been quite a disappointing stewards meeting yesterday for Max in terms of GR: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vers ... /10678443/

That's brutal.


Max channeled all his anger into a supreme driving motivation today. Russell did not exist in that start. I remember Russell getting Alonso a penalty for crashing itself and acting like it was Alonso's fault.

[PierreW]

The tyre deg issue seems to be solved, balance seems to be good. The hard compound issue does not seem to be solved. McLaren definitely seemed faster on the hard.

Yeah unfortunately that's just a car characteristic I expect

McLaren have been great on softs, good on mediums, great on hards all season, while red bull have been great on softs and mediums and good-okay on hards.

It's hard to criticize the car pace on hard today. Norris did not pass him before getting penalized and Max was definitely faster than the Ferrari of Leclerc who was holding Piastri.

[organic]

The tyre deg issue seems to be solved, balance seems to be good. The hard compound issue does not seem to be solved. McLaren definitely seemed faster on the hard.

Yeah unfortunately that's just a car characteristic I expect

McLaren have been great on softs, good on mediums, great on hards all season, while red bull have been great on softs and mediums and good-okay on hards.

It's hard to criticize the car pace on hard today. Norris did not pass him before getting penalized and Max was definitely faster than the Ferrari of Leclerc who was holding Piastri.

Yea it's difficult to say with any certainty but Norris put in multiple laps that were 0.5s faster than anything of Max's. So to me it feels like McLaren certainly had the upper hand in the final stint and probably would've converted that into a win, had Norris not received the penalty

Being faster than the Ferrari's at this track specifically is not much of a consolation, as good as their car is. It just does not suit this sort of track.

[PierreW]

Yeah unfortunately that's just a car characteristic I expect

McLaren have been great on softs, good on mediums, great on hards all season, while red bull have been great on softs and mediums and good-okay on hards.

It's hard to criticize the car pace on hard today. Norris did not pass him before getting penalized and Max was definitely faster than the Ferrari of Leclerc who was holding Piastri.

Yea it's difficult to say with any certainty but Norris put in multiple laps that were 0.5s faster than anything of Max's. So to me it feels like McLaren certainly had the upper hand in the final stint and probably would've converted that into a win, had Norris not received the penalty

Being faster than the Ferrari's at this track specifically is not much of a consolation, as good as their car is. It just does not suit this sort of track.

Max had no reason to push after Norris got penalized while Norris had to get the 10th place and the fastest lap point for McLaren.

Piastri was unable to pass Leclerc who was slower than Max. I don't think Norris would have got past Max but we will never know.

[AR3-GP]

You would like to hope that Max let off the gas there. Norris was driving flat out to get into the points. He probably wasn't managing in any corners whereas Max still was. That's easy half a second on a momentum circuit like that.

Regarding Piastri, piastri is no benchmark so I don't consider his pace.

[organic]

You would like to hope that Max let off the gas there. Norris was driving flat out to get into the points. He probably wasn't managing in any corners whereas Max still was. That's easy half a second on a momentum circuit like that.

Regarding Piastri, piastri is no benchmark so I don't consider his pace.

You'd like to hope so but usually max doesn't let his foot off the gas much even when cruising out front

[Seanspeed]

The tyre deg issue seems to be solved, balance seems to be good. The hard compound issue does not seem to be solved. McLaren definitely seemed faster on the hard.

Dont think much was 'solved', this track simply suited the Red Bull much better as many expected it would. Mclaren still ultimately seemed faster, which was also expected, but Max dominated track position and drove perfectly as he so often does; proving how much he earned this WDC.

[f1isgood]

You would like to hope that Max let off the gas there. Norris was driving flat out to get into the points. He probably wasn't managing in any corners whereas Max still was. That's easy half a second on a momentum circuit like that.

Regarding Piastri, piastri is no benchmark so I don't consider his pace.

You'd like to hope so but usually max doesn't let his foot off the gas much even when cruising out front

I think he was managing more than usual today. He said that he was trying to manage the first stint but pushed because of Lando. I am assuming he was more comfortable in the last stint.

Max usually gets a certain lead and then laps to a given lap-time though. Only when he is angry does Max push every lap -- usually to make a point.

[f1isgood]

The tyre deg issue seems to be solved, balance seems to be good. The hard compound issue does not seem to be solved. McLaren definitely seemed faster on the hard.

Dont think much was 'solved', this track simply suited the Red Bull much better as many expected it would. Mclaren still ultimately seemed faster, which was also expected, but Max dominated track position and drove perfectly as he so often does; proving how much he earned this WDC.

This car still needs that extra bit of lap-time win races comfortably. I agree with this. Max is relentlessly consistent.

[AR3-GP]

It's a pity what happened to Perez. He deserved a good race today after the year that he has had. He would have been P5 today.

[basti313]

Did Perez crash because of a mistake or did he suffer a mechanical failure that explains the spin?

Perez had a Bahrain 2022 moment with the car. No drive and spun.

No, he had cold tires. Similar to Ver. They had massive issues on getting the tires up to temp after driving through the pits.
He just spun on lack of talent.

Then he smoked the clutch according to Marko. Seems like another bad error. At least it looked strange how he tried to get going into traffic with the steering wheel upside down.

[f1isgood]

Did Perez crash because of a mistake or did he suffer a mechanical failure that explains the spin?

Perez had a Bahrain 2022 moment with the car. No drive and spun.

No, he had cold tires. Similar to Ver. They had massive issues on getting the tires up to temp after driving through the pits.
He just spun on lack of talent.

Then he smoked the clutch according to Marko. Seems like another bad error. At least it looked strange how he tried to get going into traffic with the steering wheel upside down.

Damn. He surely is getting sacked by forceful retirement.

[AR3-GP]

Why did both drivers have such poor grip on the hard tire restart? Is it related to the pressures set from the pitlane?