ispano6 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2022, 07:03
Henri wrote: ↑21 Jan 2022, 06:17
Newey has to show if his not overrated because dan fallow was the chief designer of the cars not him.. lets see if they competitive ?
Exactly who does he need to prove to that he isn't overrated? Overrated usually applies to someone who is new and without a proven track record.
From Wikipedia:
Newey-designed cars have won the following Formula One World Constructors' Championships:
1992 – Williams FW14B
1993 – Williams FW15C
1994 – Williams FW16
1996 – Williams FW18
1997 – Williams FW19
1998 – McLaren MP4/13
2010 – Red Bull RB6
2011 – Red Bull RB7
2012 – Red Bull RB8
2013 – Red Bull RB9
2021 – Red Bull RB16b (drivers championship, could have been a constructor's championship too)
It's worth remembering that Newey didn't design those cars in isolation because no "designer" does. He was part of a team in each case, as are all of the "big names" that we talk about at various teams and at various times. For example, the Williams's were designed by a team led by Patrick Head where the McLaren was designed by a team led by Newey - Neil Oatley was the "Chief Designer" for that one but obviously under the guidance of Newey.
Look at one car - the RB6 and Wiki lists the designers thus:
Adrian Newey (Chief Technical Officer)
Rob Marshall (Chief Designer)
Steve Winstanley (Chief Engineer, Composites and Structures)
Dave Worner (Chief Engineer, Mechanics and Suspension)
Mark Ellis (Chief Engineer, Performance)
Andrew Green (Head of R&D)
Giles Wood (Chief Engineer, Simulation and Analysis)
Peter Prodromou (Chief Engineer, Aerodynamics)
Dan Fallows (Chief Aerodynamicist)
To say that "Newey designed it" is just incorrect. Yes, he led the team and yes, he probably set the overall feel for the car's design, but many others were involved in designing it and making it a success.
Having said all that, the fact that he has consistently achieved success working with good people shows us that he can lead a team very effectively.
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