2023 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort, Aug 25 - 27

[ValeVida46]

Well the interesting thing about analysing using "could've" is that you can apply some nuance which you seem to be lacking Regardless it's off-topic let's move on shall we?

The nuance of strategy screw up does not explain how Verstappen was faster in all practice sessions, qualifying and the race.
It also does not explain how in the race, Verstappen consistently gapped Alonso. The heavy lifting required from this nuance you are speaking of is fantasy realm stuff.
The RB pulled away from everyone regardless of strategy, cock ups, etc etc.


https://www.racefans.net/2023/05/30/202 ... r-ratings/
*Quickest in every timed session aside from first practice
*Only just snatched pole position on his final lap to beat Alonso by 0.084s, brushing barriers in the process
*Started on mediums and pulled gradually away from Alonso out front
*Expertly managed his tyres, extending his stint as the threat of rain loomed
*Kept his car on track when the rain arrived before pitting for intermediates
*Pulled away further from Alonso over closing laps despite kissing barriers once to win by almost half a minute
*Led every racing lap


But you're right on one count, it's off topic so we can move on.

[AR3-GP]

oh Organic...resistance is fu....

[langedweil]

But you're right on one count, it's off topic so we can move on.

.. but not before still making your point
The comparison made is a bit silly imho, but that's just that .. an opinion.

Anyway, tommorrow seems to certainly be dry, Sat & Sun still wet-ish

[ValeVida46]

Anyway, tommorrow seems to certainly be dry, Sat & Sun still wet-ish

Hopefully it's a wet race to throw up some much needed surprises.

oh Organic...resistance is fu....

Just mute. Simple.

[organic]

Anyway, tommorrow seems to certainly be dry, Sat & Sun still wet-ish

Hopefully it's a wet race to throw up some much needed surprises.

oh Organic...resistance is fu....

Just mute. Simple.

In the last two properly wet races alpine got podiums time to put some bets in

[AR3-GP]

Just mute. Simple.

When someone quotes a muted user, it's visible again. An unfortunate loophole in the forum software.

[Stu]

Anyway, tommorrow seems to certainly be dry, Sat & Sun still wet-ish

Hopefully it's a wet race to throw up some much needed surprises.

oh Organic...resistance is fu....

Just mute. Simple.

No, just keep it on topic. Please

[ValeVida46]

No, just keep it on topic. Please

Noted!
My reply was specific to the post quoted and the sarcasm displayed.

In the last two properly wet races alpine got podiums time to put some bets in

Odds on that repeating?

[hollus]

Still off topic. Replying off topic to off topic is off topic.

[Wouter]

The weather is good today.



New RBR beamwing.

[Wouter]

The weather is great now.

[taperoo2k]

RB19 has the most downforce.
It can be put succintly as that. Remember all cars can crank on wing and go to the ground to get as much downforce as they want. But that wont translate to lap time because of track layout.
Redbull have been able to have the most downforce while translating that to lap time. So in essence that's the car which can add downforce with the least compromise with drag.
Looking at lat last years highlights I am really looking forward to the fight behind redbull.

How was tyre deg here last time out? I can see Ferrari being very competitive but fall short if deg comes into play. Maybe Aston's early season advantage to preserve the tyres showd up here. Merc may just be the all rounder. So I am intrigued in how these three teams and tge dark horse Mclaren duke it out.

I think the RB19 likely uses the downforce more efficiently than the rest of the field can, with a wider operating window. I haven't found the season boring tbh, the fight behind Red Bull is most interesting from the point of view that competition drives innovation which might see one of the teams be able to fight with Red Bull next season or in '25. Red Bull really do seem to be surprised by how far ahead they are.

[AR3-GP]

Only caught FP2 intermittently. Any thoughts on race pace? I heard Norris looked strong?

[jofs89]

Only caught FP2 intermittently. Any thoughts on race pace? I heard Norris looked strong?

I think strong in one lap pace. Looked pretty bad in race pace ~7 tenths off Max on the softs.

Interestingly, Alonso was lapping quicker on the hards than Norris was on the soft, pretty much from the start of the stint. Aston upgrades working? Or soft just a terrible race tyre?

[organic]

Only caught FP2 intermittently. Any thoughts on race pace? I heard Norris looked strong?

Race pace looked good for McLaren relative to others but Max in league of own as per