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Remember that any design they have cant have more than 2 profiles in the forwards view. (same way Mercedes did with their pods to utilise the midwing.

If they running a overbite, then the only way they could do it, I believe is with a vertical inlet. Actually pretty common on fighter jets.

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chrisc90 wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 21:07
Remember that any design they have cant have more than 2 profiles in the forwards view. (same way Mercedes did with their pods to utilise the midwing.

If they running a overbite, then the only way they could do it, I believe is with a vertical inlet. Actually pretty common on fighter jets.
Wouldn't make a difference, various inlet shapes could be placed below the lip/wing. See W14, current year McLaren. Upside-down RB19 inlet would still satisfy the two-section regs.
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chrisc90 wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 21:07
Remember that any design they have cant have more than 2 profiles in the forwards view. (same way Mercedes did with their pods to utilise the midwing.

If they running a overbite, then the only way they could do it, I believe is with a vertical inlet. Actually pretty common on fighter jets.
Yes

That's why the mid-wing points to vertical inlet and whatever elese mclaren and rb are planning

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vorticism wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 21:14
chrisc90 wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 21:07
Remember that any design they have cant have more than 2 profiles in the forwards view. (same way Mercedes did with their pods to utilise the midwing.

If they running a overbite, then the only way they could do it, I believe is with a vertical inlet. Actually pretty common on fighter jets.
Correction
The rule was that with the mid wing , the inlet has to be attached to the floor so no undercut

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chrisc90 wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 21:07
Remember that any design they have cant have more than 2 profiles in the forwards view. (same way Mercedes did with their pods to utilise the midwing.

If they running a overbite, then the only way they could do it, I believe is with a vertical inlet. Actually pretty common on fighter jets.
As I understand it they give lift when the entry nacelle "chokes" with engine volume intake lower than airspeed when located under the wing. Useful in aircraft...and upside down config appeared useful on RB 19....then why it's confusing what they are doing on this RB20.

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The funny/sad thing, had it been merc, fer, mcl that had presented this, i would be doubting if this was the correct way to go concept wise, now its rb, i have no doubt its working
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Some people wonder why Red Bull is doing this (big change). McLaren showed last year how easy it is to catch up with that concept. They needed something else for this year, to stay ahead for the next 2 years (2026 taking into consideration, 2025 will be a lot carry over).

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Farnborough wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 21:17
chrisc90 wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 21:07
If they running a overbite, then the only way they could do it, I believe is with a vertical inlet. Actually pretty common on fighter jets.
As I understand it they give lift when the entry nacelle "chokes" with engine volume intake lower than airspeed when located under the wing. Useful in aircraft...and upside down config appeared useful on RB 19....then why it's confusing what they are doing on this RB20.
Higher pressure under the sidepod is also higher pressure atop the floor, so it may be negligible. Outwash total mass flow increase. *If* there's an inlet on that side. 8)

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15 Feb 2024, 20:06
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15 Feb 2024, 19:56
Well, thats the charm of decoys. They are fantasy and hence do not take up any windtunnel time. The car probably only has one sidepod...
+1 Interesting take. With such lorge sidepods you might get away with rad maxxing on one side only. Inlet only on the left side for CCW tracks, right side for CW tracks. Where was shakedown held?
Well, Silverstone is run CW...

Aero cover on the LH side, RB19 intake on the unseen RH side.
If the car's no longer over regulation weight they could then play with asymmetrical ballast placement.
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Dee wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 21:04
CjC wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 20:46
Venturiation wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 20:04
Can someone explain how the 2 "redbull" cars last year McLaren and Redbull both switched to mid-wing this year and are hiding the real car until Bahrain
Did they reach the ceiling and found that the next evolution is the mid-wing and some kind of zeropods iteration?
My thoughts as well
Didn't Rob Marshall switch to Mclaren from RB?
I believe so.
There’s is no denying that the MCL60 was following a similar and the closest path in terms of development to the RB19 on 2023 so both team could have seen the need to switch a similar times.
Both share similarities regarding suspension layouts too
Just a fan's point of view

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These are the most evasive sidepod inlets i've ever seen

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Haha, so they are wanting us to believe they have sidepods with no intakes?!

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Even their graphic designer wasn't sure about the sidepod inlets

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vorticism
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Still looks like overbite in those renderings. The inlet on the underside of the lip/brim/scoop. Completely recessed, if so.
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I think this is an extreme version of the alpine's inlet with a huge overbite instead of the alpine's slight underbite