Honda Future Idea

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Sasha
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Nissan situation....
Honda should take it as a lesson.
It isn't good to get involved in someone's else problems even if asked by your own government.
Especially when the heads of the ship doesn't even see the ship is already sunk and they steered underwater.
Nissan Leadership thought they could pull a fast one on Honda to save their sinking ship while getting partial control of Honda.
Genius or insanity?

Honda woke up and saw the Truth.

Honda should make some good news by announcing a partnership with Aston Martin Automobile with Fun Automotives.

Also HRC Limited Motorcycles ๐Ÿ๏ธ.

I would keep a eye on Mitsubishi Motor shares that Nissan owns.
Mitsubishi most likely would be a better equal partner on future BEV, eVTOL and Space ๐Ÿš€ rockets. ๐Ÿ˜‰
I think they have good people but they have a marketing problem,bad decisions caused by partnership with Chrysler.

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A Honda partnership with Mitsubishi does have its merits, but whether JAMA allows Foxconn or other foreign entity to acquire a stake remains to be seen. Just please not Tesla.

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HRC might be thinking ๐Ÿค” correctly with their GTP program.
Going to customer cars in IMSA GTP( Acura) in 2026.
With HRC( Honda) focusing on WEC( Le Mans) in 2026.

I think the Acura GTP engine should be enlarged to 3.0 L minimum. So still keeping it's compact and lightweight design.

HRC( Honda) should go the Hypercar route in WEC but still using the Oreca chassis but AWD.
Using a 4.0 L W8TT and Two Electric Motors.
On the fly cylinder deactivation each lap( Big bang out 8 cylinder out of the corner,6 cylinder then less cylinders during braking)
Fuel efficiency leads to more laps per fuel load without losing lap time.

Honda's new Solid State battery.

Sasha
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New Honda Element?
Probably too smart to do so

Sasha
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Christmas and New Year Gift!!!
Because February 24 is the new Christmas and New Year date. :wink:

Aston Martin- Honda Limited 007 'Juan Fangio'
Newey design Fan Car
RWD
4.0 L DOHC W8 with Dual eChargers.( Sound like a NA engine) 120 degree V6 and Inline 2.
10,700 rpm redline
900-1000bhp ( reliable over ultimate power)
150 kw Electric Motor
7 speed F1 trans
7 kwh Honda Solid State battery pack

Full Active Suspension

Cabin more driver and passenger friendly( more room than the Valkyrie).
Still in a feet up driver position but in a form fitting seat with Air foam in the seat fabric.
Close cell metal foam CF seat cores( absorbing energy that could break backs during a bad crash)

We can always Dream little Dreams!!! ๐Ÿ˜˜

Colors....( Key)
But about any color the owner wants and will pay for.

Green( same shade as F1 car)with White or Black interior ( green stitching)

Red with White interior( red stitching)

White with red interior

Yellow with black or blue interior ( Senna helmet yellow) ๐Ÿ’›

Burgundy with black or burgundy interior

Blue(Senna helmet blue) with black , white or yellow interior

Dark Mahogany with dark green interior.

Grey with red interior.

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Honda...

I Am both the Father's of the Honda Motor Company.
Yen Yang Balance โ™Ž

I would like the President of the Company with full backing of the Board to look at Honda's miss- steps and success since Mr Honda's death.

It's time to be bold and calculated at the same time!!!

Toyota was/ is correct going Hybrid rather going BEV. Taking it step by step.

Honda's focus should be the number 1 in Hybrid manufacturer in Automotive and Motorcycle.

Push BEV in Urban Motorcycles and Automobiles( exchange battery with Lithium and Sodium batteries)with a goal of owning the market share.

What Honda needs from Nissan if the deal goes thru is their Key Engineers, factories in the United States,UK and Brazil.
Truck and Sports Cars platforms.
And most important is Mitsubishi Motors!!


Type-R and Type-S ( HRC)needs to become the Performance Brand of Honda and Acura.

It's too smart to partner with Aston Martin with Sports Cars. This move will make Aston Martin profitable without hurting the brand.
Better manufacturing and logistics will be the reason...not cost-cutting!!!

Honda Rocket first commercial flight should be in 2026 or sooner. It's major selling point is very fast lead times and this can only happen if Honda has its own Space Ports .... mobile launcher system.
Partnering with the Mitsubishi Group to make nano to micro size satellites. Goal is to spend up the manufacturing time building them by using the knowledge of automotive automation assembly systems.
A better SpaceX

When I was writing this I noticed two black crows flying to me and making all kinds of noice like they wasn't happy about something.
They attacked something on the roof of the building near me and then I heard a loud yell and a large female Red Tail hawk flew off.
I guess the two black crows where jealous.๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ˜Š

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I'd push for V4s in Honda cars too. Especially if the engineers' main development point was the EXACT sound of the earlier VFRs. That undescribable whine-infused-wroom has brought an aura that was so characteristic... How about a 1.5 liter DOHC VTEC, M-TREC, DI, supercharged V4 Civic Type-S(kicker)? With a 5-figure redline?

And I remember certain rumors in the old days which were simply genius. Do you recall the 6-cylinder 360hp S3000 rumor w/balsa wood structural enhancements? Even when it was a completely made up story, drove the hardcore Honda fans crazy...

I'd certainly trumpet an old boys club together who still representing the classic Soichiro values. Let them kill the bean counters and build SUPERSTIMULI again. But puhleeze not some fancy new electric - because they are like muted porn/horror on speed 2.5x. I'd do a Neiman-Marcus-like catalog as well, where you can buy brand new continuation-series RA272s, RC-166s for example - but not for a stellar sum. They would be expensive but not prohibitively.

Today's people (including top tier managers) are too spoiled to notice that we are in a situation when consumers need affordable basic transportation (like after WWs) and NOT superintelligent (meta)data collectors masked as vehicles with hyperinflated prices; crammed with unneded tech that is absolutely dangerous because of their distraction factors/health hazard/privacy issues.

Oh, and isn't it interesting that whoever deleted my earlier post, doesn't have a slightest clue about SSP, 20-and-back military programs and Omega systems...

Sasha
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Honda Dream come true to the Honda Fans???

City Type-R ( 5 door Hatchback)???
FWD
6MT or 7MT(first gear is electric motor...EV only mode, Launch control that leads to very fast 0-60 and 1/4 mile times in a MT, just have to make the 2-3 gear shift).
Game Changer ๐Ÿ˜‰

1.5L DOHC V3 eCharger 250-270 bhp
8000 rpm redline( 8300 rpm fuel cutoff) Honda going back to it Roots!!!
60 kw Axial Flux Electric Motors( 2) generator/ drive( very compact and lightweight motors)
Total power around 320-330 bhp

Sodium ion Exchange battery( cheaper, safer and can be recycled).

Next Civic Type-R
Same power train but with rear Electric Motor Axle to make it AWD.
MT or DCT

Sasha
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A Dream...

New HRC Type-R engine for the Civic, Integra, City and Prelude.

3D Printing Manufacturing mostly to keep cost down for a Low Volume Engine that will lead to higher profit margins for Honda Co.

1.5L DOHC V3 with Electric Charger.
Air to Water intercooler.
Design from day one to be integrated with Electric Motors.
8000 rpm redline is a Must!!!
That is the Honda Way!!!

Flex- Fuel( higher power rating with E85 or High Octane Synthetic Fuels)
Future Hydrogen fuel using Hydrogen Absorbing fuel tanks.

Sasha
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I written to not go all into BEV too fast!!!

China and Tesla was just manipulation of the Market!

Porsche went from very profitable to in trouble because they went all in with BEV and now have no new ICE products in the loop!

I written Honda should take a much slower approach to BEV just like Toyota. Go HEV first!
Focus on BEV bikes!( Sodium Ion battery)
Focus on Sport HEV and PHEV models using the exchange battery.
I laughed when I read about the big expensive Honda BEV plant in Canada! Now Honda sees the light.๐Ÿ˜˜

China Market...
You must do want Toyota did.
No Global platform.
R&D and built in China using 100% China made parts is how you compete with China Government Auto Companies.
Chinese will buy Japanese Auto Companies Automobiles because they come with more standard Equipment at base price and they are better built and more reliable!

Sasha
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2027 Aston Martin Honda Hypercar???

Fan Car???
4.0L DOHC W8 with eChargers???
Flex-Fuel???
Active Suspension???

Faster than the Valkyrie with a more comfortable driver setting position and space.
CF seats have Metal foam core???
Back saving!!!

vorticism
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Honda Celebration Line
Medium scale production of Honda F1 ICE, MGUK, and MGUH, applied to various new model concepts.

Honda Feather
Carbon framed & bodied hypermile 2-seater
266cc 1 cyl 140 hp
MGUK 160 hp
System output 300 hp

Honda S-2
FMR sports coupe
533cc 2cyl 280 hp
MGUK 160 hp
System output 440 hp

Honda NSX 799
Restoprod of the 1st gen NSX
799cc inline 3 cyl 420 hp
MGUK 160 hp
System output 580 hp

Honda Inspire/Accord Type R
F4 sedan
1067cc inline 4cyl 560 hp
MGUK 160 hp
System output 720 hp

Honda Wing
2-seat cycle car for track use
1067cc flat 4cyl 560 hp
MGUK 160 hp
System output 720 hp

Honda Civic Max
RM4 time attack hatchback, track or rally use
1333cc inline 5 cyl 700 hp
MGUK 160 hp
System output 860 hp

Honda Phoenix
RMR hypercar and flagship of the Celebration Line built to commemorate rising from the ashes in F1 to achieve multiple championship titles
1600cc flat 6 cyl 840 hp
MGUK 160 hp
System output 1000 hp

Honda Avon / Aston Martin Kantล
FMR luxury coupe/convertible collaboration with badging chosen by purchaser
2133cc V8
MGUK 160 hp
Twin MGUH
System output 1120 hp

Honda Victory
FM4 executive/state saloon/limousine
3200cc 12 cyl 1680 hp
Twin FF MGUK 320 hp
Twin MGUH
System output 2000 hp