Mercedes W16

[CLKGTR]

Front pushrod shroud is bent - flow conditioning?

[Bence]

...but the similarities brake apart once you look at them in motion and notice how much of the track space these behemoths take.

For me it's strange that nobody seems to remember that the pre-94 cars were around 15cm wider than today's machines... OK, wheelbases and overall length grew, but what's more important in Monaco?

[Lasssept]

[Lasssept]

@FiftyBucksVT

[Vappy]

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@FiftyBucksVT

The load on that wing must be enormous. I'd be keen to see a comparison to other teams. @lasssept, have you seen footage of other cars and been able to gauge the difference?

[venkyhere]

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@FiftyBucksVT

isn't this what happens with every med/high DF wing (on any of these cars) when the car brakes at the end of straight without DRS ?

[yooogurt]

isn't this what happens with every med/high DF wing (on any of these cars) when the car brakes at the end of straight without DRS ?

That's what Merc was complaining about in 2021 when RB got a ban for their flexible rear wing.

[Venturiation]

isn't this what happens with every med/high DF wing (on any of these cars) when the car brakes at the end of straight without DRS ?

That's what Merc was complaining about in 2021 when RB got a ban for their flexible rear wing.

Not at all, redbull was 10x worse

[Vanja #66]

This wing is actually tilting back MORE than MCL38 wing design that got banned after Baku and MORE than RB16B flex wing from Spain 2021

[CjC]

This wing is actually tilting back MORE than MCL38 wing design that got banned after Baku and MORE than RB16B flex wing from Spain 2021

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkyP-5EWgAE ... ame=medium

So how is that allowed?

[Vanja #66]

So how is that allowed?

Cars don't have to be legal in tests, safety homologation is all that matters

[Farnborough]

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@FiftyBucksVT

While it can definitely be seen moving, this is exaggerated by, relatively, the rear tyres "dropping" out of camera framing geometry when brakes are applied and rear suspension moves into more extension.

You'll need to separate the two components in movement to fully define wing alone.

Just enlarge image as you watch it, the left wheel in frame can be seen, along with top rear suspension leg, moving substantially downward (in reference to static in frame image logo) as he comes hard onto brake effort at maximum retardation.

Take one movement from the other to realistically assess the wing's bending characteristics.

[HungarianRacer]

This wing is actually tilting back MORE than MCL38 wing design that got banned after Baku and MORE than RB16B flex wing from Spain 2021

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkyP-5EWgAE ... ame=medium

Those lines are not even remotely honest... The red line is sitting spot-on on top of that Mercedes wing on the left image, while the yellow is clearly cutting through the upper flap on the right... Not to mention, the focal lenght on those cameras are unlikely to be the exact same, a more relevant and good faith comparison would be the dip measured IN PROPORTION to the base heights of the wings, but even then it's a medium-high DF wing vs low-medium DF (in comparison to McLaren)....

[Farnborough]

This wing is actually tilting back MORE than MCL38 wing design that got banned after Baku and MORE than RB16B flex wing from Spain 2021

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkyP-5EWgAE ... ame=medium

Those lines are not even remotely honest... The red line is sitting spot-on on top of that Mercedes wing on the left image, while the yellow is clearly cutting through the upper flap on the right... Not to mention, the focal lenght on those cameras are unlikely to be the exact same, a more relevant and good faith comparison would be the dip measured IN PROPORTION to the base heights of the wings, but even then it's a medium-high DF wing vs low-medium DF....

There's no difference, its the distance between image record plane and subject that affects perspective. With same final image size as here and camera location, its comparative in reasonable accuracy.

[HungarianRacer]

This wing is actually tilting back MORE than MCL38 wing design that got banned after Baku and MORE than RB16B flex wing from Spain 2021

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkyP-5EWgAE ... ame=medium

Those lines are not even remotely honest... The red line is sitting spot-on on top of that Mercedes wing on the left image, while the yellow is clearly cutting through the upper flap on the right... Not to mention, the focal lenght on those cameras are unlikely to be the exact same, a more relevant and good faith comparison would be the dip measured IN PROPORTION to the base heights of the wings, but even then it's a medium-high DF wing vs low-medium DF....

There's no difference, its the distance between image record plane and subject that affects perspective. With same final image size as here and camera location, its comparative in reasonable accuracy.

The wings are tilting backwards, so the focal lenght will absoluely be a factor as to how much upper flap dip you'll observe (increased focal lenght = proportionally less movement further back when pixels are counted). And even if the focal lenght was the same, the images aren't scaled properly (compare the Mercedes wing's width with McLaren's above).

But it's a moot point either way, the yellow line is clearly cutting through the Mercedes wing (zoom in and observe the turquoise stripe on the left, even the right side of the upper flap).