Sebastian Vettel has won the Monaco GP for the first time in his career, ahead of Fernando Alonso and Jenson Button, both former World Champions and former winners. Red Bull were however lucky with a late safety car to make a risky one-stop strategy work.
How does this preclude one person from making a comment in jest about the officiating Black or white??ringo wrote:It's just not going to happen. The guys who pull the strings in the NBA aren't the players remember?Tazio wrote:I disagree if stated in the same context (jokingly as The Boss did), I could see it being used in the NBA, Or NCAA Roundball.ringo wrote:
Well the reality is there is never going to be a situation like that.
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Then there are the majority of fans.
As funny as that would be, I think Fred takes his work seriously, I don't think he would provoke Hamilton in this way. Alonso had a couple of these kinds of races last season, and I think the humor may be lost on him! But he is capable of misbehaving every bit as badly. I really don't think these guys harbor any serious animosity toward each other, at least not nearly as much as their followers would like to believe.beelsebob wrote:All I can think now is... What if Alonso gets penalised at the next race, and then says "Maybe it's cos I is black" in the interview.
I would wet myself, it might even endear me to him!
It was a joke, albeit in bad taste. You can quite clearly see by the expression on his face and the way that he says it. Do you lose respect for everyone that makes a joke in bad taste?Ray wrote:After pulling the race card in a post race interview, Lewis has lost every ounce of respect as far as I'm concerned.
I guess some people can´t read body language or have a very very dry sense of humor.wesley123 wrote:Indeed he said 'Maybe it is because I am black, just like Ali G says', that cannot be anything else then serious!
Not a chance, Hamilton tried to go for a gap that never existed.beelsebob wrote:You clearly don't know anything about relative motion.HampusA wrote:Hamilton hit Maldo.
Not the other way around.
With that rather abstract aside out the way, watch the video again – Hamilton puts right hand lock in to avoid the colision, maldo continues to turn in. Absolutely maldo's fault.
See a few pages up this thread, I posted pics of exactly that – they were in essentially the same positions going into the corner. Mandy turned in on him, Schumi didn't.richard_leeds wrote:It would be interesting to compare Hamilton's move on Maldonado with his move on Schumacher.
My memory is that Schumacher gave him room to avoid the collision, while Maldonado didn't deviate from his usual line, hence the collision.
It is interesting that the wise old head managed to deal with the bullying move by Hamilton, but the inexperienced Maldonado failed to see how it would play out.
That's the thing about making aggressive moves, they rely on the other person to have the experience to recognise what you are doing.
and @ Beelsebobrichard_leeds wrote: It would be interesting to compare Hamilton's move on Maldonado with his move on Schumacher.
My memory is that Schumacher gave him room to avoid the collision, while Maldonado didn't deviate from his usual line, hence the collision.
It is interesting that the wise old head managed to deal with the bullying move by Hamilton, but the inexperienced Maldonado failed to see how it would play out.
That's the thing about making aggressive moves, they rely on the other person to have the experience to recognise what you are doing.
Thanks, found them. I'd lost the will to live after the last few pages, you prompted me to dig deeper and I found them.beelsebob wrote: See a few pages up this thread, I posted pics of exactly that – they were in essentially the same positions going into the corner. Mandy turned in on him, Schumi didn't.
I agree, Maldonado had every right to hold his line. He did and his race was over. It was inevitable from the moment Hamilton got alongside him 100m earlierTazio wrote:Why should Maldonado have deviated from the only racing line in that section when Hamilton was still behind him ? The only way Maldanado could have avoided the accident was to lift and let Hamilton through.
A guy with a lot of sponsorship moneyHampusA wrote:People talk like Maldo has never been in overtaken situations before.
Does anyone know who he is before he joined F1?
Do any of you think they picked him up on a farm somewhere and just told him "well you have no experience at all with racing cars but we´ll give you a chance to run in F1".
Well this isnt destruction derby you know. It was pretty clear in the vid posted that Maldonado just turns in and pretty much expects Hamilton to 'avoid an unavoidable collision' when Maldonado turns in Hamilton already started turning in trying to avoid the collision. I still cannot understand how Hamilton can avoid this collision when it is clear Maldonado drives into you.Maldo did the right thing. I would too because from here on, Hamilton has a totally different view on Maldo and knows he won´t budge unless it´s to late.
