Mercedes W15

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Doesn't look like Hamilton is running the new front wing in FP1?

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mkay wrote:
24 May 2024, 13:46
Doesn't look like Hamilton is running the new front wing in FP1?
I believe he has the first version of FW.

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Russell v Hamilton
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https://x.com/albertfabrega/status/1793 ... w2eCbwUjFA

Someone feel free to embed the images. I used to know how. I know the various tools to implement but I believe I also have to parse part of the hyperlink. Just can’t recall which portion. Apologies.

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Courtesy Albert Fabrega via zibby43

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Thank you!

In the overhead frontal view, you’ll notice a new wake control flick/element upper left of frame on the new spec.

Near where topmost flap meets the end plate.

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zibby43 wrote:
24 May 2024, 15:19
Thank you!

In the overhead frontal view, you’ll notice a new wake control flick/element upper left of frame on the new spec.

Near where topmost flap meets the end plate.
This little beauty...

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mkay
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I imagine Russell and Hamilton split front wings to test the new spec. Doesn't look like an improvement at this track, as Hamilton was clearly the faster driver of the two.

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mkay wrote:
24 May 2024, 15:34
I imagine Russell and Hamilton split front wings to test the new spec. Doesn't look like an improvement at this track, as Hamilton was clearly the faster driver of the two.
There was an explanation provided for that by Ted Kravitz.

“"Did it work? Given Russell was on the new and Lewis was on the old, what does it say as to why Lewis was quicker than George?

"The team say it's not down to the front wing. Russell had a big axel and front brake vibration which limited his progress throughout the session.

That made a true read on the efficiently of the front wing pretty tricky.

"They do believe the new front wing is doing what it should be, even though the benefit of downforce here is a little bit decreased compared to some other circuits we go to.”

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zibby43 wrote:
24 May 2024, 15:41
mkay wrote:
24 May 2024, 15:34
I imagine Russell and Hamilton split front wings to test the new spec. Doesn't look like an improvement at this track, as Hamilton was clearly the faster driver of the two.
There was an explanation provided for that by Ted Kravitz.

“"Did it work? Given Russell was on the new and Lewis was on the old, what does it say as to why Lewis was quicker than George?

"The team say it's not down to the front wing. Russell had a big axel and front brake vibration which limited his progress throughout the session.

That made a true read on the efficiently of the front wing pretty tricky.

"They do believe the new front wing is doing what it should be, even though the benefit of downforce here is a little bit decreased compared to some other circuits we go to.”
so are they abandoning their novel legality strip concept if theyre intending to use this wing going forward? maybe the gains with the former was not enough to outweigh the imbalances.

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Monaco at the top, Imola below

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cplchanb wrote:
24 May 2024, 15:48
zibby43 wrote:
24 May 2024, 15:41
mkay wrote:
24 May 2024, 15:34
I imagine Russell and Hamilton split front wings to test the new spec. Doesn't look like an improvement at this track, as Hamilton was clearly the faster driver of the two.
There was an explanation provided for that by Ted Kravitz.

“"Did it work? Given Russell was on the new and Lewis was on the old, what does it say as to why Lewis was quicker than George?

"The team say it's not down to the front wing. Russell had a big axel and front brake vibration which limited his progress throughout the session.

That made a true read on the efficiently of the front wing pretty tricky.

"They do believe the new front wing is doing what it should be, even though the benefit of downforce here is a little bit decreased compared to some other circuits we go to.”
so are they abandoning their novel legality strip concept if theyre intending to use this wing going forward? maybe the gains with the former was not enough to outweigh the imbalances.
I think that’s likely the case, particularly if we see both cars adopt moving forward. The scope of the changes implemented signal a new design direction as opposed to circuit-specific tweaks.

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Were both cars driven with all the new upgrades in first practice?

Luscion
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Formula 1 fan wrote:
24 May 2024, 16:55
Were both cars driven with all the new upgrades in first practice?
Lewis used the old front wing, Russell used the new one

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Luscion wrote:
24 May 2024, 16:55
Formula 1 fan wrote:
24 May 2024, 16:55
Were both cars driven with all the new upgrades in first practice?
Lewis used the old front wing, Russell used the new one
Okay, why didn't both cars use new front wings?

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Formula 1 fan wrote:
24 May 2024, 16:57
Luscion wrote:
24 May 2024, 16:55
Formula 1 fan wrote:
24 May 2024, 16:55
Were both cars driven with all the new upgrades in first practice?
Lewis used the old front wing, Russell used the new one
Okay, why didn't both cars use new front wings?
Most likely to compare the new one to the old, get an idea of if it's working as expected and the difference between the two, if any