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Everything can happen, but usually if you have a rule (in this case the possibility for the FIA to make secret deals as stated in FIA's framework) and then you change the rule, what has been done before the rule is changed is untouched by the change of the rule (in this case if FIA's framework is modified in the future to disallow all the secrecy, the new way of doing investigations will apply to new cases not to old ones and the secret deals already done will continue to be valid otherwise what kind of credibility FIA will have if it makes deal and then breaks them? Pacta sunt servanda!).ME4ME wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 17:00Ignoring the topic of Ferrari's currect performance for a second, the major question that is still up in the air is will there be a protest or legal action from the other teams against Ferrari and/or the FIA. It all quite down when the pandemic put a hold on regular Formula 1 business, the teams had to cooperate to get things done to re-start the season. But since then, the topic has regained momentum it seems. Especially Mercedes as they've re-stated that they're not happy, and equally so Red Bull is extremely displeased.
The reason why I don't expect this to go away is next years budget-cap. How on earth are teams going to trust the FIA to fairly police that. As long as the FIA remains self-empowered to make non-disclosed settlements with a team there will be distrust. Besides that they can go into agreement with these secret deals, they also do not need to publicise that any deal is made, according to their own ruling framework. This is totally nuts, and I expect that teams will use Ferrari
's deal as a case to tear this selfmade FIA framework down.
Binotto might yet still have the most difficult task in front of him. It might not go public but surely Wolff and Horner, as well as Abiteboul and others will put a lot of pressure on the Ferrari to release the information, and equally so put pressure on the FIA to re-write their framework and disallow all the secrecy. If not within the year, this surely will happen at some point especially if "FIA favorites Ferrari" suddenly make massive progress under the cost cap.
Will probably have to wait until someone in Ferrari gets fired to spill the beans. Anything else will just be hearsay.ME4ME wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 17:00Ignoring the topic of Ferrari's currect performance for a second, the major question that is still up in the air is will there be a protest or legal action from the other teams against Ferrari and/or the FIA. It all quite down when the pandemic put a hold on regular Formula 1 business, the teams had to cooperate to get things done to re-start the season. But since then, the topic has regained momentum it seems. Especially Mercedes as they've re-stated that they're not happy, and equally so Red Bull is extremely displeased.
The reason why I don't expect this to go away is next years budget-cap. How on earth are teams going to trust the FIA to fairly police that. As long as the FIA remains self-empowered to make non-disclosed settlements with a team there will be distrust. Besides that they can go into agreement with these secret deals, they also do not need to publicise that any deal is made, according to their own ruling framework. This is totally nuts, and I expect that teams will use Ferrari
's deal as a case to tear this selfmade FIA framework down.
Binotto might yet still have the most difficult task in front of him. It might not go public but surely Wolff and Horner, as well as Abiteboul and others will put a lot of pressure on the Ferrari to release the information, and equally so put pressure on the FIA to re-write their framework and disallow all the secrecy. If not within the year, this surely will happen at some point especially if "FIA favorites Ferrari" suddenly make massive progress under the cost cap.
Keeping it going is upsetting the day-to-day work the teams have to do. Not saying there was anything wrong, but it would be better all round if it had all come to light and a line drawn under it to get on with their season.
) They won’t be demoting leclerc anytime soon.selvam_e2002 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2020, 18:43The car i.e. the engine and power unit going to be the same. They cannot simply write off 2020 and 2021. They need to improve through 2020 and 2021 season to succeeded in 2022.
the only rule change would be for Aero part not on engine and power unit. They are down with both engine and power unit. They should improve it through the season.
As of current situation, it is very difficult to gain 1 second. They are lagging in development... I would say 2 years behind. So, it is very difficult for them to come up top. They could not do it in 2009 and 2010 to 2013. So, for ferrari difficult time ahead.
And on final note: The message from John Elkann is a warning. i.e. he gave Binotto dead line for his future in Ferrari till 2022, if he could not achieve what ferrari need in 2022, he will be sacked and they may even depormote Lecrec to Alfa.
Do you think Sainz was conned, and Ferrari did not tell Sainz that Ferrari expected to have no more than the third best car if they are lucky?
