2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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I Hate All That Black... :evil: :evil:

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mclaren111 wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 12:45
I Hate All That Black... :evil: :evil:
I don't hate it, however, the Barcelona livery was much better.
"In downforce we trust"

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djos wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 12:48
mclaren111 wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 12:45
I Hate All That Black... :evil: :evil:
I don't hate it, however, the Barcelona livery was much better.
Much prefer it to be honest......

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One can hardly see Dell Technologies... Lot Less money it seems... :(

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mclaren111 wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 13:31
One can hardly see Dell Technologies... Lot Less money it seems... :(
They are still there.

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_cerber1 wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 13:35
mclaren111 wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 13:31
One can hardly see Dell Technologies... Lot Less money it seems... :(
They are still there.

https://i.iscr.ru/2022/03/09/MAK-SPONSOR.png

I mean visibility on the car itself...

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mclaren111 wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 12:45
I Hate All That Black... :evil: :evil:
You just wait for the night races, they will slip past as if they are invisible
When arguing with a fool, be sure the other person is not doing the same thing.

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Big Tea wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 15:42
mclaren111 wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 12:45
I Hate All That Black... :evil: :evil:
You just wait for the night races, they will slip past as if they are invisible

Then I can live with it... :D :D

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This livery gives me '17 vibes. :?

I truly hope that's the only ressemblance to MCL32.

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BassVirolla wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 15:56
This livery gives me '17 vibes. :?

I truly hope that's the only ressemblance to MCL32.
Unlike what people think, the MCL32 was actually a decent car held back by the atrocity of a power unit that Honda came up with for 2017. Their redesign failed in every desired metric. It got worse in both power and reliability compared to 2016.

The MCL32 was definitely not as good as McLaren were making it out to be, but that car was mechanically decent and actually produced great amounts of downforce at the time. It showed its strength in all non-power tracks.

Hungary was great, but due to lack of power Alonso was stuck behind Sainz.

Monaco was going great before Stoffel binned it. Even a retired Jenson put it on P10.

On Malaysia S2 it was one of the fastest cars.

And in Mexico, apart from the straights, they were incredibly competitive.

McLaren was judged harshly because of how 2018 went. But that car was flawed. Zak admitted it was actually generating less downforce compared to the 2017 car.

The MCL32 would have been much closer to the front if it was powered by a better engine.

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Emag wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 16:19
BassVirolla wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 15:56
This livery gives me '17 vibes. :?

I truly hope that's the only ressemblance to MCL32.
Unlike what people think, the MCL32 was actually a decent car held back by the atrocity of a power unit that Honda came up with for 2017. Their redesign failed in every desired metric. It got worse in both power and reliability compared to 2016.

The MCL32 was definitely not as good as McLaren were making it out to be, but that car was mechanically decent and actually produced great amounts of downforce at the time. It showed its strength in all non-power tracks.

Hungary was great, but due to lack of power Alonso was stuck behind Sainz.

Monaco was going great before Stoffel binned it. Even a retired Jenson put it on P10.

On Malaysia S2 it was one of the fastest cars.

And in Mexico, apart from the straights, they were incredibly competitive.

McLaren was judged harshly because of how 2018 went. But that car was flawed. Zak admitted it was actually generating less downforce compared to the 2017 car.

The MCL32 would have been much closer to the front if it was powered by a better engine.
There was a problem with their wind tunnel, they didn't noticed that the bargeboards were too close to the front suspensions... this "the MCL33 was worse than the previous car" that McLaren told to the press doesn't make much sense to me, the MCL32 and MCL33 were pretty much the same car.

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AtlasZX wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 16:43
Emag wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 16:19
BassVirolla wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 15:56
This livery gives me '17 vibes. :?

I truly hope that's the only ressemblance to MCL32.
Unlike what people think, the MCL32 was actually a decent car held back by the atrocity of a power unit that Honda came up with for 2017. Their redesign failed in every desired metric. It got worse in both power and reliability compared to 2016.

The MCL32 was definitely not as good as McLaren were making it out to be, but that car was mechanically decent and actually produced great amounts of downforce at the time. It showed its strength in all non-power tracks.

Hungary was great, but due to lack of power Alonso was stuck behind Sainz.

Monaco was going great before Stoffel binned it. Even a retired Jenson put it on P10.

On Malaysia S2 it was one of the fastest cars.

And in Mexico, apart from the straights, they were incredibly competitive.

McLaren was judged harshly because of how 2018 went. But that car was flawed. Zak admitted it was actually generating less downforce compared to the 2017 car.

The MCL32 would have been much closer to the front if it was powered by a better engine.
There was a problem with their wind tunnel, they didn't noticed that the bargeboards were too close to the front suspensions... this "the MCL33 was worse than the previous car" that McLaren told to the press doesn't make much sense to me, the MCL32 and MCL33 were pretty much the same car.
They definitely weren't the same car. Even visually you can tell they changed quite a few things and dimensions

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Emag wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 16:19
BassVirolla wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 15:56
This livery gives me '17 vibes. :?

I truly hope that's the only ressemblance to MCL32.
Unlike what people think, the MCL32 was actually a decent car held back by the atrocity of a power unit that Honda came up with for 2017. Their redesign failed in every desired metric. It got worse in both power and reliability compared to 2016.

The MCL32 was definitely not as good as McLaren were making it out to be, but that car was mechanically decent and actually produced great amounts of downforce at the time. It showed its strength in all non-power tracks.

Hungary was great, but due to lack of power Alonso was stuck behind Sainz.

Monaco was going great before Stoffel binned it. Even a retired Jenson put it on P10.

On Malaysia S2 it was one of the fastest cars.

And in Mexico, apart from the straights, they were incredibly competitive.

McLaren was judged harshly because of how 2018 went. But that car was flawed. Zak admitted it was actually generating less downforce compared to the 2017 car.

The MCL32 would have been much closer to the front if it was powered by a better engine.
Good analysis, I agree indeed. I was thinking more in sporting results.

I also think that the MP4-30 was not that bad (but the engine). I'm sorry I can't back up such statement with facts / numbers.

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AtlasZX wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 16:43
There was a problem with their wind tunnel, they didn't noticed that the bargeboards were too close to the front suspensions... this "the MCL33 was worse than the previous car" that McLaren told to the press doesn't make much sense to me, the MCL32 and MCL33 were pretty much the same car.
In fact, the MCL 32 was a very good chassis, not the best, but good, and with a normal engine, they could easily become 4 in the constructors' championship. The MCL 33 suffered primarily because of the haste, because it had to be converted in a very short time for the Renault engine, and those problems from the front wheel track could not be modeled in the pipe, because this effect appeared only with the wheels turned.

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Sounds like this blacker livery is simply a special version for the launch of the McLaren Artura. Could be something they run when the car releases in July, and they took this opportunity for media shots. Either way, it also looks good. More in line with the Indy livery.