2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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mwillems
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I think Lando is always handy when the car gets lighter.

But I think Lando would not have got past had he not had the undercut, or at least it is far from clear he would have got past. Look how hard Max fought against a slower Hamilton.
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BosF1 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:42
Well done to Lando. This will prove to be the best decision in the long haul IMO.
This still could be done much faster and cleaner, without making it look like a one-time gift for No.2 guy

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Avocado wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:44
Such a mess, that was a terrible decision. Norris can actually fight for the title. What were they thinking?
Fight for what title? The only title there's a slim chance of fighting for is the constructors and they earned 43 points today. Lando was given the undercut advantage, you never know what's going to happen in the pits, so he needed to cover Lewis. He was made aware of this, so not seeing the problem. You have to coexist with a team mate that you may need a favour from in the near future IF the title fight is on. There may be times when Oscar's strategy may get compromised to favour Lando, it's the way F1 goes.
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So stupid to pit Lando first on the second rounds. They gave themselves this awkward situation of begging for the swap.

Incredible. How can they get a 1-2 with both drivers being unhappy.

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"The team asked me to do it and I did it."

Why throw away 7 points???

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:50
First things first. Mclaren from old. 1-2 and the empire strikes back. We can say that we now have the fastest car. Now regarding the strategy. What the hell is the team doing? Norris is challenging for the championship. Why force him into a 78 points difference instead of a 70 points difference. They have damaged Norris's psychology.
We had the fastest car at this track, that's it.

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Ben1980 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:51
Think Lando should have kept it.
No

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Ground Effect wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:52
Fight for what title? The only title there's a slim chance of fighting for is the constructors
No.

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Emag wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:52
So stupid to pit Lando first on the second rounds. They gave themselves this awkward situation of begging for the swap.

Incredible. How can they get a 1-2 with both drivers being unhappy.
Was it that stupid? Max was catching and lewis and Leclerc were catching. He only came out 4 seconds clear, and with a 2.3 stop. You can't make it more difficult than needs be.

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wiktor977 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:53
Ben1980 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:51
Think Lando should have kept it.
No
I wouldn't have had an issue if ge did.

Oscar lost seconds before the stop, that was on him, he could have been comfy.

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Emag wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:52
So stupid to pit Lando first on the second rounds. They gave themselves this awkward situation of begging for the swap.

Incredible. How can they get a 1-2 with both drivers being unhappy.
Yeah, it took the shine off Oscar's win. Poor decision, there was no risk to Lando.
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mwillems wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:49
Dimond wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:47
mwillems wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:45


Yeah.

He should have dropped back earlier and then overtook him, that would have been the clever option.
They wouldn't let him
If he'd given it back 6 laps earlier and legitimately overtook later, they could be unhappy but little more.

No issue with ruthless, but also be clever.
I think they wouldn't take the risk. The same was the case in Italy 2021.
I also believe they had an agreement beforehand to keep the positions after the 2nd pitstop, that's why Lando was so stubborn

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Ben1980 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:54
Emag wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 16:52
So stupid to pit Lando first on the second rounds. They gave themselves this awkward situation of begging for the swap.

Incredible. How can they get a 1-2 with both drivers being unhappy.
Was it that stupid? Max was catching and lewis and Leclerc were catching. He only came out 4 seconds clear, and with a 2.3 stop. You can't make it more difficult than needs be.
Yes, it is incredibly stupid. Both cars within 2 seconds and you have a 6-7 seconds cushion to the guy you want to cover.

You give priority to the car which has track position first, then pit Lando the following lap. Easy. Maintain the order and let drivers settle it on track and there was absolutely zero risk to Lewis. At least no risk that wasn't applicable to Oscar as well with P1-P2 being that close.

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Can someone explain to me what happened and they had to switch places?

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It is a bitter sweet situation. Great result, and i hope they sort this out at the briefing and on track trough the rest of the season.
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