2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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still we have no idea about RB engine reliability. So, I bet Ferrari should win this year. It is in their hand. Don't lose like 2010 and 2012. Thanks.

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One of the few positive is Sainz is back, he said he understand the car more now. Managed to held off Perez despite his neck pain and lack of mileage in FP2.

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clean race for sainz.

now is the perfect time to start the comback for the championship.

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ringo wrote:
09 May 2022, 01:16
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09 May 2022, 00:27
Binotto doesn't talk about the top speed deficit which is the biggest problem. Bahrain, Jeddah, Imola sprint and now here where Leclerc has lost position to that Red Bull and he only got to retaliate once, 4/5 rounds

I don't think the Ferrari is a dragbox just that the Red Bull is from another planet speed wise, it was 4kph clear of the pack in qualifying. It will not be possible to bridge that deficit this year and that makes the rest of the season look very bleak

Talk of Spain updates doesn't fill me with hope because they won't magically fix the speed issue either. Ferrari need to design a rear wing with a bigger DRS flap as well even though that won't fix all the issues
Glad you are one of the few that admit this. The Redbull is more aero efficient ultimately. The F1-75 is a great car, dont get me wrong, but it has a very predictable Achilles heel against its rival.
Charles was the best driver in Miami, based on how he wrung the car after the safety car, but it was to no avail.
And I’m glad we have two top experts here.

Seriously, we are 5 races into a completely new era of cars and this usually means big steps with each upgrade - of which Ferrari have not brought any yet.

In regards of the top speed, Mercedes is a good example. They were sitting ducks in the races before, but with their upgraded front, rear and beam wing they found themselves being quite competitive on the straights.
Also Ferrari managed to not being a sitting duck in the races already after Jeddah, to be honest. Remember the drag race Charles and Max had in Melbourne, with Max not being able to come close even with Charles drifting out of the corner.

The beam wing is the draggiest part on the car (together with the rear wing) and modifications to that alone will have a huge impact.

The way some people jump to conclusions is simply amazing.

That’s what Binotto said:
Binotto: "Today Red Bull had the better pace, as it was in Imola, at least a couple of tenths faster per lap than us. They developed the car since the beginning of the season, which we didn‘t really."

Binotto: "Red Bull spent money, so I hope at some stage with the budget cap, they will stop developing while we got some upgrades available."

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The thing is, Ferrari have the most powerful engine, and he's still running quite conservative without the ERS update. Theses issues can be solved quickly from this perspective.

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Spoutnik wrote:
09 May 2022, 09:01
One of the few positive is Sainz is back, he said he understand the car more now. Managed to held off Perez despite his neck pain and lack of mileage in FP2.
We'll see. He still binned it this weekend and cost the team money and running. Said lack of running might've hurt Ferrari in terms of tyre understanding and compromised their medium pace given the lower track time in fp2. He would not be on the podium without red bull reliability again (Perez engine deficit)

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Good result for the team. It was always going to be difficult to win here with top speed deficit.

Sainz blew the start, he really doesn't have the racing intelligence of champions. In time, he'll get better, maybe good enough to challenge for a title in a few years. This error from Sainz cost Charles the time to build the gap he could manage and Max forced him to cook the tires.

Without any real upgrades and on a track favouring RB, finishing 2-3 is not a good result, its a great result. But the team shouldn't be happy about it.
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Vanja #66 wrote:
09 May 2022, 12:59
Good result for the team. It was always going to be difficult to win here with top speed deficit.

Sainz blew the start, he really doesn't have the racing intelligence of champions. In time, he'll get better, maybe good enough to challenge for a title in a few years. This error from Sainz cost Charles the time to build the gap he could manage and Max forced him to cook the tires.

Without any real upgrades and on a track favouring RB, finishing 2-3 is not a good result, its a great result. But the team shouldn't be happy about it.
I agree that Sainz blew it in T1, and this has not been the first time he did vs Max. He left outside completely opened even though he was able to fully move in front of Max, he just picked the wrong line, his start wasn't even bad.

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organic wrote:
09 May 2022, 12:56
Spoutnik wrote:
09 May 2022, 09:01
One of the few positive is Sainz is back, he said he understand the car more now. Managed to held off Perez despite his neck pain and lack of mileage in FP2.
We'll see. He still binned it this weekend and cost the team money and running. Said lack of running might've hurt Ferrari in terms of tyre understanding and compromised their medium pace given the lower track time in fp2. He would not be on the podium without red bull reliability again (Perez engine deficit)
He was still ahead from Perez before the PU issue, while Charles was past by Verstappen.
I don't think the lack of running in FP2 would've change anything, contrary to Jeddah, but we'll never know.

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ferkan wrote:
09 May 2022, 13:07
Vanja #66 wrote:
09 May 2022, 12:59
Good result for the team. It was always going to be difficult to win here with top speed deficit.

Sainz blew the start, he really doesn't have the racing intelligence of champions. In time, he'll get better, maybe good enough to challenge for a title in a few years. This error from Sainz cost Charles the time to build the gap he could manage and Max forced him to cook the tires.

Without any real upgrades and on a track favouring RB, finishing 2-3 is not a good result, its a great result. But the team shouldn't be happy about it.
I agree that Sainz blew it in T1, and this has not been the first time he did vs Max. He left outside completely opened even though he was able to fully move in front of Max, he just picked the wrong line, his start wasn't even bad.
I understand the frustration but he was just ahead of Max before braking, so he should've moving into the braking zone, and I'm not even sure there was enough space to do that with Charles ahead. Furthermore, ofc he played it really safe with 2 DNF in the last races.
In Jeddah he was held up by Charles because he took a better start than him.

He could have more guile but I don't think he's really to blame on these two occasions.
Regardless, Verstappen would've passed him on race pace, and overtook Charles after.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
09 May 2022, 12:59
Good result for the team. It was always going to be difficult to win here with top speed deficit.

Sainz blew the start, he really doesn't have the racing intelligence of champions. In time, he'll get better, maybe good enough to challenge for a title in a few years. This error from Sainz cost Charles the time to build the gap he could manage and Max forced him to cook the tires.

Without any real upgrades and on a track favouring RB, finishing 2-3 is not a good result, its a great result. But the team shouldn't be happy about it.
Who on the dirty side of the grid had a good start? Hamilton, Norris and Russell all lost places at the start. Sainz had already pointed that out after quali that it would be tough to get a decent launch into T1.
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JPower wrote:
09 May 2022, 13:30
Vanja #66 wrote:
09 May 2022, 12:59
Good result for the team. It was always going to be difficult to win here with top speed deficit.

Sainz blew the start, he really doesn't have the racing intelligence of champions. In time, he'll get better, maybe good enough to challenge for a title in a few years. This error from Sainz cost Charles the time to build the gap he could manage and Max forced him to cook the tires.

Without any real upgrades and on a track favouring RB, finishing 2-3 is not a good result, its a great result. But the team shouldn't be happy about it.
Who on the dirty side of the grid had a good start? Hamilton, Norris and Russell all lost places at the start. Sainz had already pointed that out after quali that it would be tough to get a decent launch into T1.
Perez was the only one on the dirty side who didn't lose out at least a place iirc

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JPower wrote:
09 May 2022, 13:30
Who on the dirty side of the grid had a good start? Hamilton, Norris and Russell all lost places at the start. Sainz had already pointed that out after quali that it would be tough to get a decent launch into T1.
He got a decent launch actually. He failed to understand Max's intention, which was 100% the only option he could have tried to gain a position - starting from outside and going into a chicane. Sainz had more than enough room and time to move half a car width to the left and prevent Max from getting a good position.
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JPower wrote:
09 May 2022, 13:30
Vanja #66 wrote:
09 May 2022, 12:59
Good result for the team. It was always going to be difficult to win here with top speed deficit.

Sainz blew the start, he really doesn't have the racing intelligence of champions. In time, he'll get better, maybe good enough to challenge for a title in a few years. This error from Sainz cost Charles the time to build the gap he could manage and Max forced him to cook the tires.

Without any real upgrades and on a track favouring RB, finishing 2-3 is not a good result, its a great result. But the team shouldn't be happy about it.
Who on the dirty side of the grid had a good start? Hamilton, Norris and Russell all lost places at the start. Sainz had already pointed that out after quali that it would be tough to get a decent launch into T1.
Sainz had solid start but i think he was a bit too cautious into T1