2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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https://x.com/dr_obbs/status/1835706499382800758

i'm laughing my ass off lmao... Imagine if the only possible plan to destroy RB was to sabotage themselves with a clown solution in order to get RB to copy it lmao

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Autobahn303 wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 09:59
There was also situation few laps before where Leclerc drifted ontt that same kerb but floored the pedal and probably took some laps out od that poor rear right tyre. But was cool to see

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Xyz22 wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 18:46
https://x.com/dr_obbs/status/1835706499382800758

i'm laughing my ass off lmao... Imagine if the only possible plan to destroy RB was to sabotage themselves with a clown solution in order to get RB to copy it lmao
Maybe Cardile was the GOAT all along! :lol:

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Xyz22 wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 18:46
https://x.com/dr_obbs/status/1835706499382800758

i'm laughing my ass off lmao... Imagine if the only possible plan to destroy RB was to sabotage themselves with a clown solution in order to get RB to copy it lmao
Cardile makes a --- floor that RBR copies, leads them down a wrong path which then causes Newey to leave after added internal turmoil, goes to AMR with new facilities and Newey follows... what a guy :D

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F1NAC wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 18:51
Autobahn303 wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 09:59
There was also situation few laps before where Leclerc drifted ontt that same kerb but floored the pedal and probably took some laps out od that poor rear right tyre. But was cool to see
Reminds me of COTA 2022 when Charles just floored it and drew two black lines on the track when he was fighting with Max.

Just spectacular.
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Emag wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:30
dialtone wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:26
Emag wrote:
I mean, he did have DRS I do not know what to tell you. It depends on what strat he was as well. Could have gone in cooling mode after Charles dropped. I don't want to continue this here anymore, perhaps we should move it to another thread?
Piastri had DRS all race long, even without a car in front.
He had the actual DRS opened for the lap in question. As for what the FIA thinks about this, remains to be seen. If they allow it, I don't think anyone can afford to not bring something like this for themselves. I am not equipped with the knowledge to tell you how much this would be worth, but anything matters in a grid so tight.

Calling it an extra DRS is a bit of a stretch though. If they do ban it, assuming it's not blatantly braking a rule I don't see them getting disqualified. They will just forbid them from using this trick in the future.
Piastri didn't have DRS on the lap in question. Top speed: 328 kmh

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Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 20:03
Emag wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:30
dialtone wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:26

Piastri had DRS all race long, even without a car in front.
He had the actual DRS opened for the lap in question. As for what the FIA thinks about this, remains to be seen. If they allow it, I don't think anyone can afford to not bring something like this for themselves. I am not equipped with the knowledge to tell you how much this would be worth, but anything matters in a grid so tight.

Calling it an extra DRS is a bit of a stretch though. If they do ban it, assuming it's not blatantly braking a rule I don't see them getting disqualified. They will just forbid them from using this trick in the future.
Piastri didn't have DRS on the lap in question. Top speed: 328 kmh

https://i.imgur.com/5qtzleC.png
Incorrect data from f1-tempo then. Having worked with the APIs myself, it happens more often than you think. The team feed literally said he had and used DRS.

Also, 328 was not achievable by any car without DRS.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 19:09
Xyz22 wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 18:46
https://x.com/dr_obbs/status/1835706499382800758

i'm laughing my ass off lmao... Imagine if the only possible plan to destroy RB was to sabotage themselves with a clown solution in order to get RB to copy it lmao
Cardile makes a --- floor that RBR copies, leads them down a wrong path which then causes Newey to leave after added internal turmoil, goes to AMR with new facilities and Newey follows... what a guy :D
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 19:00
Xyz22 wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 18:46
https://x.com/dr_obbs/status/1835706499382800758

i'm laughing my ass off lmao... Imagine if the only possible plan to destroy RB was to sabotage themselves with a clown solution in order to get RB to copy it lmao
Maybe Cardile was the GOAT all along! :lol:
The final masterplan to destroy RB domination :lol:

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Emag wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 20:36
Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 20:03
Emag wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:30


He had the actual DRS opened for the lap in question. As for what the FIA thinks about this, remains to be seen. If they allow it, I don't think anyone can afford to not bring something like this for themselves. I am not equipped with the knowledge to tell you how much this would be worth, but anything matters in a grid so tight.

Calling it an extra DRS is a bit of a stretch though. If they do ban it, assuming it's not blatantly braking a rule I don't see them getting disqualified. They will just forbid them from using this trick in the future.
Piastri didn't have DRS on the lap in question. Top speed: 328 kmh

https://i.imgur.com/5qtzleC.png
Incorrect data from f1-tempo then. Having worked with the APIs myself, it happens more often than you think. The team feed literally said he had and used DRS.

Also, 328 was not achievable by any car without DRS.
Because you are so insistent I went and checked Piastri's onboard and there was no car in front on lap 47 for him to get DRS off of. So the team feed was wrong. And he was regularly reaching ~326 kmh on main straight, so 328 is not so unbelievable.

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The whole reason that Leclerc couldn't pass with almost 40 laps of DRS was because Piastri has his own partial DRS system. This isn't normal, and had it been any other car, Leclerc would have been able to overtake.

It's funny to me. I couldn't care less about Sainz Perez collision when Mclaren is driving around with a partially open DRS flap and the F1 media don't want to talk about it...Ferrari/RB/Mercedes are absolutely pathetic for letting them get away with it.

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AR3-GP wrote:The whole reason that Leclerc couldn't pass with almost 40 laps of DRS was because Piastri has his own partial DRS system. This isn't normal, and had it been any other car, Leclerc would have been able to overtake.

It's funny to me. I couldn't care less about Sainz Perez collision when Mclaren is driving around with a partially open DRS flap and the F1 media don't want to talk about it...Ferrari/RB/Mercedes are absolutely pathetic for letting them get away with it.
It would be too hard for MCL to design a part not made of noodles. Catering budget in UK does miracles.

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AR3-GP wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 22:27
The whole reason that Leclerc couldn't pass with almost 40 laps of DRS was because Piastri has his own partial DRS system. This isn't normal, and had it been any other car, Leclerc would have been able to overtake.

It's funny to me. I couldn't care less about Sainz Perez collision when Mclaren is driving around with a partially open DRS flap and the F1 media don't want to talk about it...Ferrari/RB/Mercedes are absolutely pathetic for letting them get away with it.
Even without it, the Mclaren would have been tough to pass. That last corner before the final straight was exactly the kind of slower, but still loaded corner that Mclaren does well at versus Ferrari, and Piastri was getting good exits off it almost every lap, gaining like a tenth before Leclerc was able to start making the difference back up. That easily made enough difference on its own for most of the last stint. There were a few occasions where perhaps Leclerc started out with a less than 7 tenths disadvantage heading onto the straight, and this might well be where Mclaren's extra non-DRS speed helped though, for sure.

But even if a better opportunity was there, Leclerc and the Ferrari would have needed a very heady advantage into the first corner cuz the Mclaren is great on the brakes and turn-in.

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Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 21:59
Emag wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 20:36
Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 20:03

Piastri didn't have DRS on the lap in question. Top speed: 328 kmh

https://i.imgur.com/5qtzleC.png
Incorrect data from f1-tempo then. Having worked with the APIs myself, it happens more often than you think. The team feed literally said he had and used DRS.

Also, 328 was not achievable by any car without DRS.
Because you are so insistent I went and checked Piastri's onboard and there was no car in front on lap 47 for him to get DRS off of. So the team feed was wrong. And he was regularly reaching ~326 kmh on main straight, so 328 is not so unbelievable.
I do not have access to the onboards so I chose to believe what the team feed said. Apparently I was wrong, I apologize.
I guess he might have dumped the battery then or the headwind was temporarily calmer. When being attacked by Leclerc I did not see his speed go more than 223/224, except the lap the DRS was broken where he briefly reached 226.

Leclerc also reached 325 without DRS while defending from Perez so I underestimated the top speed the cars could reach in Baku.

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Hopefully track can stay dry for Q and Race ...

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Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 21:59
Emag wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 20:36
Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2024, 20:03

Piastri didn't have DRS on the lap in question. Top speed: 328 kmh

https://i.imgur.com/5qtzleC.png
Incorrect data from f1-tempo then. Having worked with the APIs myself, it happens more often than you think. The team feed literally said he had and used DRS.

Also, 328 was not achievable by any car without DRS.
Because you are so insistent I went and checked Piastri's onboard and there was no car in front on lap 47 for him to get DRS off of. So the team feed was wrong. And he was regularly reaching ~326 kmh on main straight, so 328 is not so unbelievable.
While Piastri did not have DRS it is a blatant lie to say there was no car in front. There was a 3 car DRS train (BOT, ZHO, OCO) ahead of him about 2 seconds ahead. That train definitely had a slipstream effect that helped Piastri achieve that top speed.

How helpful this is can be illustrated by Leclerc reaching even higher 331 km/h on a lap where he didn't have DRS to Piastri (when Piastri started to pull out the gap). And this looks to have harvesting at the end (check Perez speed trace without harvesting when he wanted to catch LEC)
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Even Perez reached 328 km/h without DRS behind LEC and PIA.
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