2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Chuckjr
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Seanspeed wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 23:50
Chuckjr wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 20:50
Not really.
Since when has Hamilton ever been good at making a slow car fast? He is good at making fast cars faster but not slow cars faster. If Ferrari deliver a car that isn't fast, he's not your man. Plus with CS, he would have taken seat #2 to put more force into Charles. Lewis will never do that until it's far too late in points.
I dont even know what you mean here.

Do you mean Lewis doesn't perform well in a worse car? Because that's obviously easily refutable as he's notoriously been a driver who can maximize whatever machinery he has in a given situation. Granted, he hasn't driven many terrible cars, but somebody who is known as a top wet weather driver obviously is good at dealing with adverse car characteristics, no?

Or are you talking about this whole laughable notion of drivers being key development drivers of a car's competitiveness? At which point I could point to 2009 where Lewis drove the worst car of his entire career, but later on in the season the car improved dramatically and he had four pole positions and two wins. "Oh that's cuz the car improved a ton!" Well if you're the sort who believes drivers are responsible for development, then surely Lewis deserves credit for that dramatic turnaround no? You cant have it both ways.
Holy smokes.
This forum is incredibly reactive. I’m not speaking in signals or dooming the team. All I was saying is that Lewis does well in a fast car but not a slow car. I wasn’t saying he was the problem in testing or reading into everything in testing. Golly. I was simply saying IF the car is no good, he’s not your man. He gets depressed easily, and we have observed over his career if the car is slow, this triggers his depression pretty quickly. That’s it.

Imo CS is a better choice if the car is bad because he isn’t so thin skinned, and more importantly, Ferrari could put 100% behind Charles from race 1 like Red Bull or even Merc this year. I fail to see how any of that is conspiracy, or out of bounds, or crazy. In fact, how would it not be in Ferrari’s best interest and give them the best chance to win the drivers title, to back Charles 100% from race 1? Why is that a nutty idea? Isn’t the goal to win both titles? Red Bull seem to understand this aspect of a team better, and it just may win them the drivers title again — especially in a year like this one.

Anyway, the Ferrari may be fast. If it is, great, that opens a different can. If it’s not, well I just commented on that.
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Ferrari never backed Leclerc at the expense of Sainz in any of the years before, so why they would all of a sudden start doing that now makes no sense lol. It’s just another slightly concealed swipe at Hamilton, which some posters have an obsession with for some reason.

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First of all, no surprises: the McLaren starts in Australia as the favorite, but there are many questions. Ferrari didn't unleash the full potential of the SF-25 in three days, but also used more weight and less engine power in the race simulations. Also, the Bahrain circuit might have been a better fit for the MCL39 (even 38th after the Miami package), but Albert Park is a different matter. Mercedes looked solid, but technically underwent the least changes. Red Bull leaves a lot of questions from the test results. A (new) floor that didn't work, a car that often proved to have certain limitations of the RB20. The work the teams do next week to extract even more potential from their packages will be crucial. Predictions are very difficult, if not impossible to make .
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Tvetovnato wrote:
01 Mar 2025, 10:22
Ferrari never backed Leclerc at the expense of Sainz in any of the years before, so why they would all of a sudden start doing that now makes no sense lol. It’s just another slightly concealed swipe at Hamilton, which some posters have an obsession with for some reason.
You can constructively analyse a driver, somehow when this is done with Hamilton, people perceive it as an attack...

He is great at testing setups, trying out new things and finding ways of improving the car. He is sensitive to the cars performance, he doesn't adapt around it and therefore, teams can see where things are going wrong and where things are going right. He is not a driver that can mask the problems of a car with his ability which can lead a team down the wrong development route.

Historically, Lewis starts a season at a lower performance peak than the end of the season. He has worked with the team to improve the car and therefore his performance improves.

I agree with Chuckjr. If the Ferrari is not a great car, then Lewis's performance won't be there, if it then improves he will will be there but Lewis won't take a "bad/worse" car and make it a winner just by talent alone.

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There were various test done throughout these 3 days and one of the main one was how the new pull-road suspension will affect the balance of the SF25, which seems to have mid-corner underserved and exit corner oversteer that needed steering micro-corrections from both driver, particularly for HAM. This micro-corrections led to increase the tyre deg especially in hot track temperature in the third day of testing, culminating with a stoppage in HAM's afternoon race simulation after the first stint, further rumors saying that there were further issue with the new gearbox realigning causing some hidraulic pressure losing...

Here are some reasons behind those issues:

"The adoption of a pull-rod front suspension, a design previously used by top teams like Red Bull and McLaren. This approach was reintroduced in Formula 1 by Gabriele Tredozi, a former engineer with Minardi and Toro Rosso, on the 2001 Minardi PS01. Reflecting on Ferrari's decision, Tredozi explained that when he first implemented the pull-rod in the early 2000s, it was primarily for its weight-saving benefits. The low nose design it enabled contributed to a lower center of gravity, although the slim lever required a stronger upper arm for added support.

Ferrari’s engineers, however, sought to achieve aerodynamic improvements rather than mechanical advantages. Tredozi pointed out that a push-rod system interfered with airflow, disrupting the flow towards the floor. In contrast, the pull-rod setup, with its lever positioned from the wheel hub to the chassis floor, provided a cleaner, more efficient airflow. This improvement enhanced the control over the wake created by the front wheels, leading to better aerodynamic performance.

Tredozi acknowledged that both suspension layouts could be effective, depending on regulatory constraints. He noted thatthe pull-rod setup made it harder to achieve the necessary ground-level stiffness, which is essential for grip.While the aerodynamic benefits were evident, ensuring that the mechanical performance matched the push-rod system's capabilities remained a challenge. Nevertheless, Tredozi expressed confidence in Ferrari's ability to succeed, praising the team's strong technical heritage. He highlighted that Ferrari's design philosophy aligned with the approach of Aldo Costa, prioritizing the overall car layout rather than focusing solely on aerodynamics—though acknowledging its critical role in performance."
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