2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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GoranF1 wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 17:00
Let's say theoretically Adrian arrive in factory on Monday whit detailed drawing of the floor and diffuser, how long it takes for it to be ready for the car?
8 - 10 weeks but if he had detailed drawing ...why wouldn't he have not sent them by mail to Silverstone HQ? or have someone pick them up?

The thing is, the guys that work for AMF1 just need direction. I'm sure, it would take just a couple of words of guidance to set them on their way.

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TyreSlip wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 18:30
JPower wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 17:06
Some of you are sounding very desperate. :lol:

Come on now. Why would Newey spend any time on this car? And why would Aston spend more than what's already been budgeted to fix it if its not performing at a high level? The 2026 project needs as much resources as possible as early as reasonably possible.

Multiple teams have had 2026 models in the wind tunnel since the beginning of January. If Aston hasn't, they're already behind.
Agreed. People forget that Newey is 2 months behind the other teams in developing the 2026 car and is playing catch up. It is doubtful he would invest any of his limited time on this year's car.
Bob Bell and a small team had been working on the 2026 car since early 2024.

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Newey will for sure work on this year's car. Lawrence Stroll and the team had a taste of success in 2023. They want to be there again now. The car brand itself needs all the help it can get. Throwing away 2025 would be brutal for all involved

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-wkst- wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 17:28
SSJ4 wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 16:43
Also we have the new/upgraded simulator which helped a lot in qatar. So hopefully we can get quicker over the course of a weekend
Let's see, for me this sim thing looks a bit overhyped right now. Juncardella (new team member, won't say anything negative) just said that it's better than their old one and it helped during the weekend (I guess even their old sim helped during the weekend a bit). But isn't the real goal of the sim to prepare the set-up of the car already in the days before the event, to have a little time advantage over the opponents?...
Hard to say. Last year red bull had issues with simulator correlation and how it effected slow speed corners.

Last year we ran the car higher than everyone else iirc. Maybe the new sim has helped to develop the amr25 and it can simulate ride height sensation and how the car handles when it bounces off kerbs. This is all in theory of course

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Kamel wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 19:34
Adrian is a ground effect master. Of course he will help AM this year.
I can't even believe that in a week he'll be walking around the paddock in green with a notebook in his hands.
Is it true that the new wind tunnel can't be used this season cause the old one is blown through already?
If Newey and Aston leadership have decided to spend money continually developing a 2025 car that has no chance for a championship when the 2026 project hasn't been started, then Aston is in far worse shape than we've been told.

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SSJ4 wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 21:22
-wkst- wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 17:28
SSJ4 wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 16:43
Also we have the new/upgraded simulator which helped a lot in qatar. So hopefully we can get quicker over the course of a weekend
Let's see, for me this sim thing looks a bit overhyped right now. Juncardella (new team member, won't say anything negative) just said that it's better than their old one and it helped during the weekend (I guess even their old sim helped during the weekend a bit). But isn't the real goal of the sim to prepare the set-up of the car already in the days before the event, to have a little time advantage over the opponents?...
Hard to say. Last year red bull had issues with simulator correlation and how it effected slow speed corners.

Last year we ran the car higher than everyone else iirc. Maybe the new sim has helped to develop the amr25 and it can simulate ride height sensation and how the car handles when it bounces off kerbs. This is all in theory of course
Marko told ORF at the end of the season that it was not only the sim. They simply had correlation problems track/factory tools, like AMR.

AMR24 had the 2nd lowest ground clearance by the way.

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KimiRai wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 17:13
Speak of the devil, look who it is.



JPower wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 17:06
Multiple teams have had 2026 models in the wind tunnel since the beginning of January. If Aston hasn't, they're already behind.
If it is true that they only want to put the 2026 model into the new wind tunnel and not the Mercedes one then they are for sure behind.
Working on a new logo? :lol: I'm sure he will have pointers on the AMR25 even if his focus is on the AMR26. They need to make sure the upgrades start working, unlike the last few years.

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If we think back to the introduction on the current regs. It wasn't that RBR was the best right out of the box, Ferrari was pretty close inm that they won 2 of the first 3 races, they kept building on it. Upgrade after upgrade worked. So it isn't just the start of 2026, it's the build after that.

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diffuser wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 22:52
If we think back to the introduction on the current regs. It wasn't that RBR was the best right out of the box, Ferrari was pretty close inm that they won 2 of the first 3 races, they kept building on it. Upgrade after upgrade worked. So it isn't just the start of 2026, it's the build after that.
Newey was pretty much the only one that made a car that didn't porpoise like crazy out of the box. The others struggled with that for a long time. Look at some Ferrari shots from 2022, it's wild. If Honda makes a competitive engine I'm confident he can make the aero for it for 26.

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