Marussia MR01 Cosworth

A place to discuss the characteristics of the cars in Formula One, both current as well as historical. Laptimes, driver worshipping and team chatter do not belong here.
Petroltorque
Petroltorque
2
Joined: 27 Jul 2011, 18:18

Re: Marussia MR-03 Cosworth

Post

The problem was that Wirth Does not believe in windtunnels. This was the guy who sold a windtunnel to Prost GP that was not fit for F1 purpose.

User avatar
raymondu999
54
Joined: 04 Feb 2010, 07:31

Re: Marussia MR-03 Cosworth

Post

Yep. He believes a well calibrated CFD kit beats a windtunnel for accuracy any day.
失败者找理由,成功者找方法

Owen.C93
Owen.C93
177
Joined: 24 Jul 2010, 17:52

Re: Marussia MR-03 Cosworth

Post

In case you were wondering how they apply flo-vis.

Image
Motorsport Graduate in search of team experience ;)

PNSD
PNSD
3
Joined: 03 Apr 2006, 18:10

Re: Marussia MR-03 Cosworth

Post

raymondu999 wrote:Yep. He believes a well calibrated CFD kit beats a windtunnel for accuracy any day.
It's an issue of money, and application.

Example, there is a reason Airbus and Boeing pay well in excess of £100,000 per day for use of some wind tunnel wind tunnel facilities. 1) their wind tunnels don't provide the desirable results for accuracy and precision, and 2) they have no choice. As an airframe manufacturer, for potential customers you need to give them values of Cd that will allow them to accurately calculate fuel costs for a given engine. I dont need to stress the consequences of getting that figure wrong, the cost of which is larger, than large. I said application, and in this case the application of CFD is to accurately give you Cd, primarily viscous drag. Surely that's an oxymoron?

To cut it short, if you had enough money you would take the wind tunnel any day. With the available instrumentation these days CFD has to go a long way to kill off the tunnel.

Wirth's solutions are cost effective, and maybe in turn performance effective but not for a race car where 1 tenth can mean Q2 or Q1 :wink:

tok-tokkie
tok-tokkie
37
Joined: 08 Jun 2009, 16:21
Location: Cape Town

Re: Marussia MR-03 Cosworth

Post

Owen.C93 wrote:In case you were wondering how they apply flo-vis.
I was. Thanks for that. On the McLaren there was an arc of heavy flo-viz on the floor from below the exhaust to in front of the rear wheel. I assumed it was where the flo-viz had been painted on to see where it would flow. Others were implying that that heavy colouring showed where the exhaust had been blowing - saying the exhaust had been turned right down onto the floor (where was the main airflow around the sidepod going?). What was confusing was the entire floor was covered in flo-viz so it had also been coming from around the radiator inlet area.

User avatar
pocketmoon
0
Joined: 17 Oct 2011, 23:14

Re: Marussia MR-03 Cosworth

Post

Well lucky me gets a visit to Marussia next week through work! We're a partner although what I do is a million miles from anything F1 related :)

Hope to get a peak at the MR-03 and a cup of tea at least :D

User avatar
dice782
0
Joined: 23 Mar 2010, 20:50
Location: UK

Re: Marussia MR-03 Cosworth

Post

=D> Yes pictures will be appreciated

pitlaneimmigrant
pitlaneimmigrant
0
Joined: 29 Jun 2008, 19:42

Re: Marussia MR-03 Cosworth

Post

What area is it you work in pocketmoon?

User avatar
N12ck
11
Joined: 19 Dec 2010, 19:10

Re: Marussia MR-03 Cosworth

Post

Budding F1 Engineer

ESPImperium
ESPImperium
64
Joined: 06 Apr 2008, 00:08
Location: Glasgow, Scotland

Re: Marussia MR-03 Cosworth

Post

N12ck wrote:http://en.espnf1.com/marussia/motorspor ... 71361.html

Marussia to have a smooth nose :D
Is that any surprise that they have gone this way when 35% of their workforce comes from McLaren Applied Technology.

So its The 10 Vs The 2 when it comes to nose design.

Also, can the Mods change the thread title to read MR01 for the thread title as its not the MR-03, Source: http://www.marussiaf1team.com/car/519/i ... oming-soon

Richard
Richard
Moderator
Joined: 15 Apr 2009, 14:41
Location: UK

Re: Marussia MR01 Cosworth

Post

ESP - Done. In future its easier if you click the "Report Post" if you want to alert the mods to anything like that.

hrt
hrt
0
Joined: 15 Nov 2011, 17:09
Location: Madrid, Spain

Re: Marussia MR01 Cosworth

Post

Does anyone knows if Marussia passed the CT, if they didnt what are they waiting for?

Polarbear
Polarbear
0
Joined: 05 Jul 2011, 10:51

Re: Marussia MR-03 Cosworth

Post

ESPImperium wrote:
N12ck wrote:http://en.espnf1.com/marussia/motorspor ... 71361.html

Marussia to have a smooth nose :D
Is that any surprise that they have gone this way when 35% of their workforce comes from McLaren Applied Technology.

So its The 10 Vs The 2 when it comes to nose design.

Also, can the Mods change the thread title to read MR01 for the thread title as its not the MR-03, Source: http://www.marussiaf1team.com/car/519/i ... oming-soon
What source do you have to say that 35% of Marussia's workforce is from Mclaren?

It is a load of rubbish.

Marussia have a few people from Mclaren visiting the factory once or twice a week tops, and that is the God's honest truth...

TzeiTzei
TzeiTzei
5
Joined: 09 Mar 2011, 21:19

Re: Marussia MR01 Cosworth

Post

hrt wrote:Does anyone knows if Marussia passed the CT, if they didnt what are they waiting for?
There haven't been any news about it so i guess they have. Bad news tend to get more publicity (like with HRT).

Crucial_Xtreme
Crucial_Xtreme
404
Joined: 16 Oct 2011, 00:13
Location: Charlotte

Re: Marussia MR01 Cosworth

Post

Marussia has failed crash test again. Will not make it to the second Barcelona test. Embarrasing.