Red Bull RB17

Breaking news, useful data or technical highlights or vehicles that are not meant to race. You can post commercial vehicle news or developments here.
Please post topics on racing variants in "other racing categories".
Sasha
Sasha
63
Joined: 07 Jul 2013, 07:43

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

So Yamamoto shared it with RB and RB is having Cosworth build it. He is a consultant that works with RB and he wanted to make the ultimate engine( his favorite Honda F1 engine was the 2005 V10)

Fer.Fan
Fer.Fan
0
Joined: 02 Mar 2015, 21:31

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

Whelbase is huge, at least 5 m. Ugly car, dear God, save us.

User avatar
mclaren111
279
Joined: 06 Apr 2014, 10:49
Location: Shithole - South Africa

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

Fer.Fan wrote:
12 Jul 2024, 14:47
Whelbase is huge, at least 5 m. Ugly car, dear God, save us.
=D> =D>

User avatar
F1NAC
168
Joined: 31 Mar 2013, 22:35

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

Fer.Fan wrote:
12 Jul 2024, 14:47
Whelbase is huge, at least 5 m. Ugly car, dear God, save us.
This is not the final car. It will be smaller I think at the end.

User avatar
deadhead
47
Joined: 08 Apr 2022, 20:24

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

F1NAC wrote:
12 Jul 2024, 13:52
And it can lap Silverstone on F1 Levels...
I’ve heard that before about the older model and then Hulk got to drive it…



Turns out.. not even close.

User avatar
chrisc90
41
Joined: 23 Feb 2022, 21:22

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

Fer.Fan wrote:
12 Jul 2024, 14:47
Whelbase is huge, at least 5 m. Ugly car, dear God, save us.
Factually incorrect. It has a very very similar size and footprint to an Aston Martin DBX. So a wheelbase of at least 5m is about 1.5m out.


DBX has a 3060mm wheelbase and a Length of 5039mm and a Width of 1998 mm.

A bit of careful listening to the video at 12mins 30seconds will clear your inaccuracies up

Cold Fussion
Cold Fussion
93
Joined: 19 Dec 2010, 04:51

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

deadhead wrote:
12 Jul 2024, 17:54
F1NAC wrote:
12 Jul 2024, 13:52
And it can lap Silverstone on F1 Levels...
I’ve heard that before about the older model and then Hulk got to drive it…



Turns out.. not even close.
Clearly Valkyrie had some massive technical issues to the point the amr pro isn't a valkyrie at all, it's a completely different car that sort of looks like a valkyrie. I have way more confidence in RBT executing valkyrie 2.0 than Aston Martin executing valkyrie with their former CEO making crazy promises in the press.

User avatar
TEHNOS
8
Joined: 03 Nov 2011, 19:02

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

There is clearly F1 backbone hidden underneath bodywork,downwashing "side pod", even undercut as it is now. Nose like up to 2013 era.

User avatar
Holm86
247
Joined: 10 Feb 2010, 03:37
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

People also need to understand that this is
1. A body shell model only
2. It represents how the model looked almost a year ago as Newey says, so the car cold look somewhat different right now with a year of further development

Personally i think it's absolutely amazing that Cosworth has become a real bespoke engine maker for other companies again, and with modern tech they can really make some interesting and beautiful sounding engines.

Newey says in the video that they've only completed the single cylinder test engine, but has begun casting the real blocks now, can't wait to hear this thing ...

The valve train pretty much HAS to be pneumatic at these kind of revs??

Sasha
Sasha
63
Joined: 07 Jul 2013, 07:43

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

Yes and why it will need a new engine if it races in WEC.
Also a Chassis redesign( breaking all the rules in every category)

Tommy.G
Tommy.G
0
Joined: 07 Jul 2024, 00:05

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

How do these ground effect tunnels produce so much downforce without having a “kick” like the f1 tunnels??
I mean they look almost straight! Where’s the low pressure area??


AR3-GP
AR3-GP
351
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

Tommy.G wrote:
12 Jul 2024, 23:36
How do these ground effect tunnels produce so much downforce without having a “kick” like the f1 tunnels??
I mean they look almost straight! Where’s the low pressure area??

This is a show car. Note that it doesn't have any doors or any ground clearance on the side skirts. It's going to change quite a bit for the real thing.

Cold Fussion
Cold Fussion
93
Joined: 19 Dec 2010, 04:51

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

Sasha wrote:
12 Jul 2024, 21:55
Yes and why it will need a new engine if it races in WEC.
Also a Chassis redesign( breaking all the rules in every category)
It would have to be a completely different car to compete in wec

BlueCheetah66
BlueCheetah66
33
Joined: 13 Jul 2021, 20:23

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

Tommy.G wrote:
12 Jul 2024, 23:36
How do these ground effect tunnels produce so much downforce without having a “kick” like the f1 tunnels??
I mean they look almost straight! Where’s the low pressure area??

Like already said this is just a show car and I think it was mentioned that this was the design from a year ago, so it likely has undergone a lot of development since then. If you look at the first and second proper release of pictures from the Valkyrie you see it was nearly a different car, in terms of aerodynamics and I assume this will be similar.

cheeRS
cheeRS
10
Joined: 17 Jul 2018, 18:53

Re: Red Bull RB17

Post

SiLo wrote:
12 Jul 2024, 10:41
So its just a Valkyrie AMR Pro?

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/2022 ... t-Ride.jpg
That's tantamount to seeing an Indy car and saying "it looks just like an F1 car!". Similarities, yes; there are certain features of racecars that will always be the most efficient, especially coming from the same mastermind. Someone should post some comparison pics side by side.
🤭 wrote:
“Being the 'most successful statistically' has nothing to do with being the 'best'. neither when it comes to the cars, nor when it comes to the drivers” 😂