Mercedes AMG F1 W03 (pre-launch speculation)

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It doesn't matter now anyway – the ride height system has been banned.

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beelsebob wrote:It doesn't matter now anyway – the ride height system has been banned.
where does it say it has been banned? as far as I was aware, it is legal, as the FIA ruled (ride height system)
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Morteza wrote:
Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Mercedes has already raced their version of the Lotus Reactive Ride Height System, and it is believed to have helped lap time gains of around half a second. Merc is on their game and will grab some podiums in 2012.
They have raced ride height system? Is there a reliable source for that?
Yes its in the latest AutoSport magazine. I would post a picture but that's not right and they could revoke my subscription.

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N12ck wrote:
beelsebob wrote:It doesn't matter now anyway – the ride height system has been banned.
where does it say it has been banned? as far as I was aware, it is legal, as the FIA ruled (ride height system)
Latest Tech directive banned it apparently, only just heard the news though.
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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Mercedes has already raced their version of the Lotus Reactive Ride Height System, and it is believed to have helped lap time gains of around half a second. Merc is on their game and will grab some podiums in 2012.
No they didn't! They are currently working on one, it has not been submitted to FIA yet. The Lotus system has been ok'ed by Charlie Whiting,NOT the full FIA. If FIA hae now ruled that it is inadmissible, can the reference be provided?

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gilgen wrote:
Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Mercedes has already raced their version of the Lotus Reactive Ride Height System, and it is believed to have helped lap time gains of around half a second. Merc is on their game and will grab some podiums in 2012.
No they didn't! They are currently working on one, it has not been submitted to FIA yet. The Lotus system has been ok'ed by Charlie Whiting,NOT the full FIA. If FIA hae now ruled that it is inadmissible, can the reference be provided?
You say they haven't and AutoSport says they have. I'll go with AS's info on this one.

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and i go with gilgen on this one.

Just mantioning, if the system would gain the 0.5 seconds in laptime it would also bring them 0.5 second closer to the front of the field. I didnt remember that happening
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unless redbul has it!
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Scarbs tweeted the system had been banned. It could just be the one Renault came up with, perhaps the one Mercedes (purportedly) ran last year is a different concept and will still be legal.

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Cocles wrote:Here's the link to Scarbs' tweet: https://twitter.com/#!/ScarbsF1/status/ ... 8704939008
This info seems to come from a certain Peter Windsor, and we know that he is ALWAYS right, don't we?

There is nothing on FIA site, no technical press release etc. And on the official F1 site, they are even going to the trouble to explain exactly how it works.

As I said before, this system could still turn out as a blind alley, anyway. Just like the FEE last year.

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gilgen wrote:
Cocles wrote:Here's the link to Scarbs' tweet: https://twitter.com/#!/ScarbsF1/status/ ... 8704939008
This info seems to come from a certain Peter Windsor, and we know that he is ALWAYS right, don't we?

There is nothing on FIA site, no technical press release etc. And on the official F1 site, they are even going to the trouble to explain exactly how it works.

As I said before, this system could still turn out as a blind alley, anyway. Just like the FEE last year.
No the info didn't come from Peter Windsor, it came from Williams Chief Engineer Dr. Mark Gillan. There is a big difference. When he told Peter he said he had just received the technical directive as he was coming into the interview. So of course the FIA will send it to the teams and give some time before they make a public announcement.

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
gilgen wrote:
Cocles wrote:Here's the link to Scarbs' tweet: https://twitter.com/#!/ScarbsF1/status/ ... 8704939008
This info seems to come from a certain Peter Windsor, and we know that he is ALWAYS right, don't we?

There is nothing on FIA site, no technical press release etc. And on the official F1 site, they are even going to the trouble to explain exactly how it works.

As I said before, this system could still turn out as a blind alley, anyway. Just like the FEE last year.
No the info didn't come from Peter Windsor, it came from Williams Chief Engineer Dr. Mark Gillan. There is a big difference. When he told Peter he said he had just received the technical directive as he was coming into the interview. So of course the FIA will send it to the teams and give some time before they make a public announcement.


yup, that's exactly how I heard it as well. From Gillam.

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So this might suddenly make the front wing f-duct a lot more relevant.

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Cocles wrote:So this might suddenly make the front wing f-duct a lot more relevant.
looks like it.
and WTF?! about the RRH? why the u-turn on banning it?