Mercedes GP MGP W01

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bonjon1979
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bugref wrote:Launch
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Melbourne
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look at the nose underbelly newey design?
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cant wait for the race lol, another update of the nose XD...

Hello Ringo looks like Mercedes is adapting your suggestion look at the picture surely that nose is fat and its straight in the underbelly now XD.
Look closely at the airbox and engine cover, it's last years car in Merc livery.

bugref
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I deleted my post sorry, seems that is pretty useless sorry folks

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Yea that is definately a BGP Brawn form 2009.

They wont have the resources to run a W01 Merc in front of the fans. If either of the drivers stacked it, that would compromise their race.

The resource restriction is what Mercedes are currently running under. So they have the 480 employees, and the sub £150 million budget.

Neither Red Bull, Mclaren or Ferrari can say the same.....
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appreciate that john, thanks

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Michael Schumacher wrote:There's work to be done on the aerodynamics, as ours seem to be disturbed a lot when we come behind a slipstream and try to overtake, when it shouldn't be like that.
Michael seems to think that the Merc is more affected by dirty air than other cars. It fits the observation that both drivers struggle to overtake. My view is they probably lack straight line speed which would enable them to take opponents on the straights as McLaren and Ferrari can. Some teams run lower downforce wings and are difficult to catch on straights. The extremely high downforce this year is probably also having a contribution i making it difficult to pass.
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Witness Lewis hamilton pass Rosberg round the outside.
Same engine, different aero.

The Merc is well down on straight line performance, so this is good observation whiteblue.

In testing it was 9kmh quicker on the short barca straight.

That F-duct made lewis look better than he is lol
More could have been done.
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JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:In testing it was 9kmh quicker on the short barca straight.

That F-duct made lewis look better than he is lol
It's not just the F-duct. Even if you take a few kp/h off, which is what the system gives them, Mercedes are still down.

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zgred
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Ganxxta
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Nice shot, does anyone know if they have some updates for this race?
Haug said before Melbourne that some updates will come for this race...

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looks like they don't going to use the new exhaust openings from Melbourne...
Is this a new one or did they used it before?

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Based on the two outings I am afraid mercedes isn't close to the top 3, and I doubt if they can win a race, if they will perhaps it will be a wet race. but if its going to be a dry race, clearly merc had a long way to go unless they will redesign their nose. thats my observation so far its sheer speed that this car lacks big time.
For Mr. Schumi, I am afraid this is not your year mate. Good luck next season I know its early to say but looking at the car. its hopeless unless they are going to do something big about the aero dynamics of the W01.

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Why is the exhaust pipe diameter so small? Almost the same diameter of the runners..

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hpras
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Exhaust is small because only one cylinder fires at a time, and the final exhaust pipe can be seen as an extension of the header pipe. Having the final exhaust small helps keep the exhaust velocity up which helps scavenge the next exhaust pulse.

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hpras wrote:Exhaust is small because only one cylinder fires at a time, and the final exhaust pipe can be seen as an extension of the header pipe. Having the final exhaust small helps keep the exhaust velocity up which helps scavenge the next exhaust pulse.

but ...2 exhaust valves are opened at the same time ,if not both fully but still.. so
this is the reason why a 1 cylinder engine is not producing 1/4 of the power of a 4 cylinder.. scavenging and cylinderfilling is helped by this potentially..
My guess would be the smaller the diameter the less pulsing you will get in the exhaust stream ? the exhaust pipe is not very long either..and maybe it is also a bit of a perspective thing of the picture..

bugref
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maclaren already step up their game, mercedes seems the only one left. bad news for schumi...

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Ganxxta wrote:Nice shot, does anyone know if they have some updates for this race?
Haug said before Melbourne that some updates will come for this race...

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looks like they don't going to use the new exhaust openings from Melbourne...
Is this a new one or did they used it before?
Looks like the Bahrain exhaust cover, probably used due to the higher temps.
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