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No one will be coasting, we should know better here. When they lift, the car will start to break with 350kW of force, this is not the force of braking but it will start to slow down significantly.
Lift and coast is when the cars run freely, at the end of straights to preserve fuel, only deceleration there is drag and possibly engine braking (I would assume they have a lift and coast mode that lets it freewheel but who knows).
I bet that this lift and MGU-K brake will be no where as noticeable as everyone thinks it will be.
Full regen at the and of the straight is practically the same: going from 750kW to 150kW.
No one will be coasting, we should know better here. When they lift, the car will start to break with 350kW of force, this is not the force of braking but it will start to slow down significantly.
Lift and coast is when the cars run freely, at the end of straights to preserve fuel, only deceleration there is drag and possibly engine braking (I would assume they have a lift and coast mode that lets it freewheel but who knows).
I bet that this lift and MGU-K brake will be no where as noticeable as everyone thinks it will be.
We know what it will be because we have already seen race cars with this high electric split. The laps are underwhelming. It sounds like they are doing an economy run into every single corner. Also, the cars won't brake at 350kw without actually using the brake. Part throttle recovery is limited around 150kW iirc.
I find it amusing though the V4 hybrid sounds much more appealing than the much mocked F1 V6 hybrids. As if the latter was designed specifically to sound bland.
No one will be coasting, we should know better here. When they lift, the car will start to break with 350kW of force, this is not the force of braking but it will start to slow down significantly.
Lift and coast is when the cars run freely, at the end of straights to preserve fuel, only deceleration there is drag and possibly engine braking (I would assume they have a lift and coast mode that lets it freewheel but who knows).
I bet that this lift and MGU-K brake will be no where as noticeable as everyone thinks it will be.
We know what it will be because we have already seen race cars with this high electric split. The laps are underwhelming. It sounds like they are doing an economy run into every single corner. Also, the cars won't brake at 350kw without actually using the brake. Part throttle recovery is limited around 150kW iirc.
I find it amusing though the V4 hybrid sounds much more appealing than the much mocked F1 V6 hybrids. As if the latter was designed specifically to sound bland.
The V4 has the same sound profile as their turbocharged V8
Question On the moveable wings how are teams avioding putting aero loads through raise lower mechanism? If the raise lower mechanism used a trapeziodal screw or hydrualics it wouldn't matter as much,but as they seem to be using a soleniod. they is a potentential for the aeroload to overcome the the force generated by he solenoids magnetic field.
Question On the moveable wings how are teams avioding putting aero loads through raise lower mechanism? If the raise lower mechanism used a trapeziodal screw or hydrualics it wouldn't matter as much,but as they seem to be using a soleniod. they is a potentential for the aeroload to overcome the the force generated by he solenoids magnetic field.
Using a spring.
For 'action' (whichever be it : regular->SLM or SLM->regular) :
Stretch the spring using one solenoid, use another solenoid to 'insert' a locking wedge in the direction perpendicular to the spring (so this secondary solenoid doesn't face 'load'). Then de-power both solenoids.
For 'opposite action' (inverse of whichever is the above) :
Energize only the 2nd wedge solenoid but in the opposite direction, spring will do the job as it goes back to stable unstretched state.
People, including the B Sport guy, have been saying all this time, that if the front wing is attached by the second element (Mercedes, Aston Martin) only the third element will move. But today's first look video clearly shows this is not the case. So what gives?
People, including the B Sport guy, have been saying all this time, that if the front wing is attached by the second element (Mercedes, Aston Martin) only the third element will move. But today's first look video clearly shows this is not the case. So what gives?
Only the 3rd element moves on the Mercedes and Aston Martin.
mzso wrote:People, including the B Sport guy, have been saying all this time, that if the front wing is attached by the second element (Mercedes, Aston Martin) only the third element will move. But today's first look video clearly shows this is not the case. So what gives?
I must be blind, I see only the 3rd element moving?
People, including the B Sport guy, have been saying all this time, that if the front wing is attached by the second element (Mercedes, Aston Martin) only the third element will move. But today's first look video clearly shows this is not the case. So what gives?
The reason it appears so is that the first element actually "hides" the leading edge of the second element, but only the third element (the only one that has any meaningful angle of attack) is being moved by the actuator.
Lando's lap looks perfectly normal. yelistener is dooming IMO
Looking at telemetry there’s a big difference in lift and coast and deployment though. At once point Max is 6 tenths up, but he ends up 1 tenth down because Lando is deploying more at the end of the straight.
Quali is going to be a bit of a mess because it’s impossible to tell if a driver is on a good lap until they cross the line. But racing could be interesting because it looks like you can overtake just by not lifting before the braking zone, but you’ll be vulnerable next corner.
I wonder if the slipstream will have a secondary benefit this year of allowing the following car to charge their battery a bit more due to less drag, and then discharge it for an overtake.
Motorsport Graduate in search of team experience ;)
Quali is going to be a bit of a mess because it’s impossible to tell if a driver is on a good lap until they cross the line. But racing could be interesting because it looks like you can overtake just by not lifting before the braking zone, but you’ll be vulnerable next corner.
I wonder if the slipstream will have a secondary benefit this year of allowing the following car to charge their battery a bit more due to less drag, and then discharge it for an overtake.
I imagine once the season actually starts, teams will find out during FP (or during simulations, really) what their optimal deployment strategy is, and keep it during qualifying.
So in the end I imagine qualifying will not be that much different than what it is today, when one car/driver is often really fast/really slow in a particular sector and we'll all know what it is and can follow along accordingly.
