2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

[GPR-A duplicate2]

If anyone was expecting McHonda to perform problem free winter testing, IMHO there are two options, you were expecting McHonda to be conservative (aka giving up from fighting for titles or victories), or you were expecting McHonda to make a miracle. This is engineering, if you´re expecting a miracle you´re on the wrong forum and sport

So, you imply that, Mercedes achieved a miracle in 2014 Winter Testing and Ferrari achieved their miracle in 2015 Winter Testing. Coz, bringing a high performance PU which is also reliable and team ran without any issues, equals to miracle. Renault achieved it too, albeit quite late and at In Season testing in Barcelona 2016. Hence, Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault have all achieved it! When will Honda do?

[Vasconia]

If anyone was expecting McHonda to perform problem free winter testing, IMHO there are two options, you were expecting McHonda to be conservative (aka giving up from fighting for titles or victories), or you were expecting McHonda to make a miracle. This is engineering, if you´re expecting a miracle you´re on the wrong forum and sport

The negative aspect of a non problem free Winter test is that those tests are super limited so every day is really important to gather all the posible data. Its obvious that some teams have a great advantage in this aspect and unless Mclaren´s car is a hidden beast their development rate is quite compromised. If you can´t run normally you can´t have enough information to introduce proper developments for the chasis. This is something that even in McLaren have admitted.

McLaren needs to close the gap with the front tems and this wont be posible if they can´t have good Winter tests. Certain problems are expected, indeed, but problems which don´t let you to make enough laps can compromiso your season, as many times has passed.

[fellowhoodlums]

First week wasn't promising. 1 proper day of testing on Wednesday .

McLaren are so far behind in terms of mileage. Don't hear anyone saying they were impressed with chassis. Honda engine needs to see improvement on Tuesday in it's Melbourne spec.

Huge week next week.

[Thunder]

Filming Day today.

Oh and Chandon is now featured on the Shark Fin, making it a bit less empty. https://twitter.com/HondaRacingF1/statu ... 0926158848 https://twitter.com/HondaRacingF1/statu ... 7367238657

[kaepernickus]

Guessing it's still this week's engine and not the Australia spec to be tested next week?

[Vasconia]

First week wasn't promising. 1 proper day of testing on Wednesday .

McLaren are so far behind in terms of mileage. Don't hear anyone saying they were impressed with chassis. Honda engine needs to see improvement on Tuesday in it's Melbourne spec.

Huge week next week.

I have read the same but I am skeptical with those chasis related comments. They said the same last season and certain races prooved that it wasnt exactly true. So lets hope that they can run with the Honda PU at full power and see if the chasis is as good as they claim.

[Jef Patat]

Don't know if this is engine or team, but it affects team so I post it here:

Honda admits mechanical issue a "worry" for F1 season start
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... rt-879232/

Not very encouraging

[ME4ME]

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That's quite stupid. Peter Prodromo is an aerodynamisist. If there is anything wrong with Mclarens rear suspension it isnt his fault. Instead the area he is responsible for developing gets royally screwed by Honda's lack of reliability.

[Thunder]

Don't know if this is engine or team, but it affects team so I post it here:

Honda admits mechanical issue a "worry" for F1 season start
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... rt-879232/

Not very encouraging

Well, over the last Days i settled with having no expectations for this Season. This tells me it was the right Decision.

Just to many Questionmarks.

[FW17]

McLaren has not adopted to Honda's power gap

They have gone with assumption that the gap would be bridged and they can pile on the maximum downforce without much consideration of drag

There does not seem to be a strategy for the know present but for a unknown future

[fellowhoodlums]

Don't know if this is engine or team, but it affects team so I post it here:

Honda admits mechanical issue a "worry" for F1 season start
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... rt-879232/

Not very encouraging

Don't see anything new there. Clearly if the problem in Day 2 is a fundamental design flaw then it's a problem. Could be manufacturing weakness or needs a straightforward fix. Australia spec engine may not be affected of course but until they are clear what happened everything is fluid.

[GoranF1]

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That's quite stupid. Peter Prodromo is an aerodynamisist. If there is anything wrong with Mclarens rear suspension it isnt his fault. Instead the area he is responsible for developing gets royally screwed by Honda's lack of reliability.

it was a joke....

[ncassi22]

Don't know if this is engine or team, but it affects team so I post it here:

Honda admits mechanical issue a "worry" for F1 season start
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... rt-879232/

Not very encouraging

Yeah nah it's the media being the media. It's based off what Yasegawa said in the Fabrega interview peppered with their own bullshit. It doesn't sound nearly as doom and gloom if you watch it. https://twitter.com/MrAlexF1/status/837405377209765888

[f1rules]

yeah, exactly, same with autosport running it also

Don't know if this is engine or team, but it affects team so I post it here:

Honda admits mechanical issue a "worry" for F1 season start
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... rt-879232/

Not very encouraging

Yeah nah it's the media being the media. It's based off what Yasegawa said in the Fabrega interview peppered with their own bullshit. It doesn't sound nearly as doom and gloom if you watch it. https://twitter.com/MrAlexF1/status/837405377209765888

[Thunder]

Yeah nah it's the media being the media. It's based off what Yasegawa said in the Fabrega interview peppered with their own bullshit. It doesn't sound nearly as doom and gloom if you watch it. https://twitter.com/MrAlexF1/status/837405377209765888

But he said the exact things that are to take away from the Article (cut the strained relationship bs....):

They don't know what caused that mechanical Issue, it could be a fundamental Flaw and they are worried for their Melbourne Spec.

To be Fair i didn't read the Article as Doom and Gloom either but the only thing making it less "Doom and Gloom" is the open and honest Way Hasegawa answers the questions and the non sensationalism Way Albert Fabrega treats him.

I just really hope it's nothing serious.