I don't think so. Renault just wanted to put Ocon in the car because he's French!PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑11 Sep 2021, 03:39To worsen matters of Hulks return, he was a "vanilla" driver. Nothing bad about him, and nothing too remarkable either. Not huge returns of having him. He was expert points collector, but it was reported that he was bitter with Alpine on his way out. Anyone remember if it was salary related?
My guess is with Ocon it’s a bonus that he’s French for Alpine. The team already had a history with him, he was at the time an available young talent, etc etc. Hulkenberg is a nice driver, but not the future star he looked like ten years ago.JordanMugen wrote: ↑11 Sep 2021, 09:42I don't think so. Renault just wanted to put Ocon in the car because he's French!PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑11 Sep 2021, 03:39To worsen matters of Hulks return, he was a "vanilla" driver. Nothing bad about him, and nothing too remarkable either. Not huge returns of having him. He was expert points collector, but it was reported that he was bitter with Alpine on his way out. Anyone remember if it was salary related?
Or LH. As we see with getting out-smarted 4 times in the start, that is probably likely. He is one who will likely get out-qualified in the next 2 years!ringo wrote: ↑09 Sep 2021, 16:05Latifi destroying Albon would not suggest that.
depending on which way things go it would mean Max or George is overrated. haha
I could see Stephen Ross buying Haas and bringing in Maserati or another flashy brand. Hes already bringing F1 to Miami and the man has more money than all other owners (i believe).Mr.S wrote: ↑11 Sep 2021, 17:51I guess Vettel will stay @ Ashton. So that leaves the final Alfa Seat. It is between Gio & Nick De Vries or Zhou (F2 - 30M $ Sponsorship money). Alfa Romeo is not a bad car, with Ferrari PU upgrade they will make up another 2-3 tenths & will fight for Q3 with Alpine & Ashton Martin in some tracks !
And Haas is going down a hole. It is the team which will be bought - I think Gene Haas is waiting to sell it in the next 2-3 years. They are surviving due to Mick & Mazepin's sponsors. I don't see them beating Williams or Alfa Romeo even though they switched focus on 2022 a long time back !
codetower wrote: ↑11 Sep 2021, 18:14I could see Stephen Ross buying Haas and bringing in Maserati or another flashy brand. Hes already bringing F1 to Miami and the man has more money than all other owners (i believe).Mr.S wrote: ↑11 Sep 2021, 17:51I guess Vettel will stay @ Ashton. So that leaves the final Alfa Seat. It is between Gio & Nick De Vries or Zhou (F2 - 30M $ Sponsorship money). Alfa Romeo is not a bad car, with Ferrari PU upgrade they will make up another 2-3 tenths & will fight for Q3 with Alpine & Ashton Martin in some tracks !
And Haas is going down a hole. It is the team which will be bought - I think Gene Haas is waiting to sell it in the next 2-3 years. They are surviving due to Mick & Mazepin's sponsors. I don't see them beating Williams or Alfa Romeo even though they switched focus on 2022 a long time back !
Haha, he’s a dinosaur… but he doen’t think he is.FW17 wrote: ↑11 Sep 2021, 18:21Ross is quiet young...............codetower wrote: ↑11 Sep 2021, 18:14I could see Stephen Ross buying Haas and bringing in Maserati or another flashy brand. Hes already bringing F1 to Miami and the man has more money than all other owners (i believe).Mr.S wrote: ↑11 Sep 2021, 17:51I guess Vettel will stay @ Ashton. So that leaves the final Alfa Seat. It is between Gio & Nick De Vries or Zhou (F2 - 30M $ Sponsorship money). Alfa Romeo is not a bad car, with Ferrari PU upgrade they will make up another 2-3 tenths & will fight for Q3 with Alpine & Ashton Martin in some tracks !
And Haas is going down a hole. It is the team which will be bought - I think Gene Haas is waiting to sell it in the next 2-3 years. They are surviving due to Mick & Mazepin's sponsors. I don't see them beating Williams or Alfa Romeo even though they switched focus on 2022 a long time back !
Whatever happened to that Alonso fella who was involved in not one, but two cheating scandals??NathanOlder wrote: ↑09 Sep 2021, 14:10... Any driver who gets involved with cheating like that should have no place in the sport. Alex will be fine IMO
He never won a championship again.adrianjordan wrote: ↑14 Sep 2021, 18:02Whatever happened to that Alonso fella who was involved in not one, but two cheating scandals??NathanOlder wrote: ↑09 Sep 2021, 14:10... Any driver who gets involved with cheating like that should have no place in the sport. Alex will be fine IMO
Australia 2009 would like to have a word.NathanOlder wrote: ↑14 Sep 2021, 19:37He never won a championship again.adrianjordan wrote: ↑14 Sep 2021, 18:02Whatever happened to that Alonso fella who was involved in not one, but two cheating scandals??NathanOlder wrote: ↑09 Sep 2021, 14:10... Any driver who gets involved with cheating like that should have no place in the sport. Alex will be fine IMO
I don't recall any spying going on related to Australia 2009 with a driver or drivers involved in taking sensitive info from 1 team to another. Please fill me in, what happened and who were involved.aMessageToCharlie wrote: ↑14 Sep 2021, 20:43Australia 2009 would like to have a word.NathanOlder wrote: ↑14 Sep 2021, 19:37He never won a championship again.adrianjordan wrote: ↑14 Sep 2021, 18:02
Whatever happened to that Alonso fella who was involved in not one, but two cheating scandals??
No but he came very close and drove for several teams....oh and is still held in the highest regard by many... Not exactly having "no place in the sport"NathanOlder wrote: ↑14 Sep 2021, 19:37He never won a championship again.adrianjordan wrote: ↑14 Sep 2021, 18:02Whatever happened to that Alonso fella who was involved in not one, but two cheating scandals??NathanOlder wrote: ↑09 Sep 2021, 14:10... Any driver who gets involved with cheating like that should have no place in the sport. Alex will be fine IMO
Your'e quite right. Although he has had a few occasions where he has been blocked from driving a competitive car for one reason or another. And thats both sides of the Atlantic.adrianjordan wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 10:48No but he came very close and drove for several teams....oh and is still held in the highest regard by many... Not exactly having "no place in the sport"NathanOlder wrote: ↑14 Sep 2021, 19:37He never won a championship again.adrianjordan wrote: ↑14 Sep 2021, 18:02
Whatever happened to that Alonso fella who was involved in not one, but two cheating scandals??
A driver and his team were caught blatantly lying to the stuarts and fia about about gaining a position under sc.NathanOlder wrote: ↑14 Sep 2021, 23:47I don't recall any spying going on related to Australia 2009 with a driver or drivers involved in taking sensitive info from 1 team to another. Please fill me in, what happened and who were involved.
Oh you are mistakem, the main topic I was discussing with another user was about information being stolen from 1 team and taken to another team. Like Mclarens spygate mess. As I'm sure you are aware Stepney and Coughlan were sacked and removed completey by their teams for doing this. So as I said before, If a driver does this, he has no place in F1 and should be removed completely! So it has nothing to do with Australia 2009. Thank you.aMessageToCharlie wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 14:11A driver and his team were caught blatantly lying to the stuarts and fia about about gaining a position under sc.NathanOlder wrote: ↑14 Sep 2021, 23:47I don't recall any spying going on related to Australia 2009 with a driver or drivers involved in taking sensitive info from 1 team to another. Please fill me in, what happened and who were involved.
Driver was asked by the stewards if he was told by his team to let another driver past and he said no which was a lie which could have resulted in this other driver being wrongly disqualified, had the lie not been discovered. Aka cheating. Which he was disqualified for. And still went on to win championships. Which was the main topic.
