2021 Mclaren F1 Team

[CjC]

Bizarrely pole here might not be the best because of the slipstream effect on the long run to turn 2.
I was thinking last night how it would be bad if a Mclaren started on the second row....

You should be a motivational speaker

I meant to say ‘wouldn't be too bad starting on the second row’

But ultimately the pole should be celebrated, I was bouncing when he crossed the line just like when Dan did in Monza

Lando backing up what I was saying....

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... mOm1X.html

[SmallSoldier]

lando pole lap
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[SmallSoldier]

Telemetry comparison between Lando and Carlos, biggest difference made in the back straight, where Lando has a better exit into it and top speed (it seems Carlos run out of ERS at the end of it too)… S3 is where Lando really shines, carrying more speed into most corners:




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[SmallSoldier]

Lando’s radio after his Pole Lap:

[SmallSoldier]

Only a reprimand for Daniel for impeding Stroll… He will start P5 tomorrow

[FittingMechanics]

If Dan gets through Lewis, and Lando keeps P1 after the first lap, then I am afraid we will going to have another nail biting race tomorrow

That is one way of putting it.

I am cautiously optimistic for the race tomorrow. Hamilton cannot risk damage to his car and he should think twice about any risky overtakes. Sainz will probably defend like mad but might lose out due to top speed deficit. Russel we can't really count on to defend or to have pace to defend. What I am most positive about is the fact that Ricciardo is starting on the clean side, right behind two slippery cars. I hope that he can have a great getaway tomorrow and overtake Hamilton. If Hamilton is behind Ricciardo and Norris after lap 1 that is a completely different situation.

Any info on Hamilton? Is his car damaged? Is there a chance he starts further back?

[Marc.W]

If Dan gets through Lewis, and Lando keeps P1 after the first lap, then I am afraid we will going to have another nail biting race tomorrow

That is one way of putting it.

I am cautiously optimistic for the race tomorrow. Hamilton cannot risk damage to his car and he should think twice about any risky overtakes. Sainz will probably defend like mad but might lose out due to top speed deficit. Russel we can't really count on to defend or to have pace to defend. What I am most positive about is the fact that Ricciardo is starting on the clean side, right behind two slippery cars. I hope that he can have a great getaway tomorrow and overtake Hamilton. If Hamilton is behind Ricciardo and Norris after lap 1 that is a completely different situation.

Any info on Hamilton? Is his car damaged? Is there a chance he starts further back?

Talk of him and/or Bottas both taking new engines for the race, make sense for them to take them at the same time as Red Bull so the loss is minimal

[FittingMechanics]

Talk of him and Bottas both taking new engines for the race, make sense for them to take them at the same time as Red Bull so the loss is minimal

I was thinking I'd mention it in the post, but decided I may be reading too much into it. Toto did say that they have some other considerations now, I felt it meant about Bottas taking a new engine to start around Verstappen to play stop gap for him.

Taking a new engine might make sense for them, they are still faster than Red Bull and will probably be able to climb higher than Red Bull, making this a net positive race and then in any other races they are on even terms. Not sure if it makes mathematical logic though, Hamilton has to feel he has a chance to win the race from P4, and it's hard to argue that he can bet on being P2 or P1 if he starts from the back.

Maybe he takes just some parts so he starts mid pack?

[Balalu]

MCL35M = Win, 1-2, Pole, Fastest Lap.

[FittingMechanics]

Thinking about Hamilton or Bottas, if they change the engine they start from pitlane, which means that Verstappen will be ahead. This makes that tactic much less interesting. I doubt they will go for it, regardless of potential benefits down the line if they change now, it's full of uncertainties while tomorrow might give Hamilton a chance of an easy win without Red Bull opposition.

[Marc.W]

Talk of him and Bottas both taking new engines for the race, make sense for them to take them at the same time as Red Bull so the loss is minimal

I was thinking I'd mention it in the post, but decided I may be reading too much into it. Toto did say that they have some other considerations now, I felt it meant about Bottas taking a new engine to start around Verstappen to play stop gap for him.

Taking a new engine might make sense for them, they are still faster than Red Bull and will probably be able to climb higher than Red Bull, making this a net positive race and then in any other races they are on even terms. Not sure if it makes mathematical logic though, Hamilton has to feel he has a chance to win the race from P4, and it's hard to argue that he can bet on being P2 or P1 if he starts from the back.

Maybe he takes just some parts so he starts mid pack?

Yeah I don't think we can take a win on pace here, Mercedes have been in another class in the dry, they have to be gunning for 26 points for Hamilton surely? but taking a penalty here would still put them ahead of Verstappen on the grid, with a faster car at this track makes a lot of sense than taking it at Turkey where I think Red Bull will be the quicker car

[Marc.W]

Thinking about Hamilton or Bottas, if they change the engine they start from pitlane, which means that Verstappen will be ahead. This makes that tactic much less interesting. I doubt they will go for it, regardless of potential benefits down the line if they change now, it's full of uncertainties while tomorrow might give Hamilton a chance of an easy win without Red Bull opposition.

If they don't change engine specs won't it be just grid penalties?

[TimW]

Thinking about Hamilton or Bottas, if they change the engine they start from pitlane, which means that Verstappen will be ahead. This makes that tactic much less interesting. I doubt they will go for it, regardless of potential benefits down the line if they change now, it's full of uncertainties while tomorrow might give Hamilton a chance of an easy win without Red Bull opposition.

If they don't change engine specs won't it be just grid penalties?

IIRC you can only change parts in Parc Ferme if they are damaged. With the sprint races there was a fuzz about changing clutches without penalties.

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[FittingMechanics]

Yeah I don't think we can take a win on pace here, Mercedes have been in another class in the dry, they have to be gunning for 26 points for Hamilton surely? but taking a penalty here would still put them ahead of Verstappen on the grid, with a faster car at this track makes a lot of sense than taking it at Turkey where I think Red Bull will be the quicker car

Not sure why everyone thinks McLaren had much better pace in Monza. Mercedes (and Red Bull) are always class of their own, that's the default. What is different is whether they have enough pace differential to overtake and whether the track allows it. In Monza they had a quicker car, probably a half a second or second quicker but because McLaren is quick on the straights they could never get close enough for an overtake (Norris end of stint excluded).

It's not impossible that similar can happen tomorrow. There is a long straight and if McLaren can edge away there that makes it much harder to overtake. We'll see, hard to say really, but looking at the chart Barretto posted on Friday, McLaren is only 0.4s behind Mercedes on race pace which if they end up in a DRS train, could mean no one overtakes for a while. Let's hope Ricciardo jumps Hamilton at the start.

My point is, this type of pace differential is normal, but in Monza it allowed us to win.