Thanks for putting this together.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑27 Sep 2021, 20:33Fight for the Championship Race Track Outlook
Tyre Characteristics of tracks at which Mercedes were comfortably fastest:
Shocking that Merc only been clearly faster on three tracks! And I have double checked!
Monza -Q3 Gap to rival 0.3s
Traction 3
Braking 4
Lateral 2
Tyre Stress 5
Asphalt grip 2
Asphalt abrasion 3
Downforce 1
Hungary -Q3 Gap to rival 0.4s
Traction 3
Braking 2
Lateral 4
Tyre Stress 3
Asphalt grip 3
Asphalt abrasion 2
Downforce 5
Portimao -Q3 Gap to rival 0.4s
Traction 4
Braking 4
Lateral 3
Tyre Stress 4
Asphalt grip ? (low from observation )
Asphalt abrasion ? (low from observation)
Downforce 4
It seems the car favours medium traction tracks (3 to 4), with moderate to high tyre stress (3 to 5). The car also had an advantage on slipperier tracks Asphalt grip and abrasion (low).
Upcoming Track
Istanbul Park
Traction 4
Braking 3
Lateral 4
Tyre Stress 5
Asphalt grip ? (expected to be low)
Asphalt abrasion ? (expected to be low)
Downforce 4
Judging by Istanbul Park's tyre parameters, Mercedes should in theory be ahead of RedBull! Well, the lateral rating of 4 mirrors Hungary, but Mercedes were stronger than RedBull there. So fingers crossed!
Did they resurface again? Because if they haven't I dont expect grip to be a lot better. That tarmac is just not up to snuff for racing cars. Same thing as in Portimao where grip also didn't improve at all year on year, it just stayed the same more or less.
You missed silverstone where Hamilton should have been around 0.3 clear of Verstappen in qualifying but messed up final corner. His Q3 lap that was good enough for pole was slower than his Q2 lap, just goes to show they had a pretty big advantage there already.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑27 Sep 2021, 20:33Fight for the Championship Race Track Outlook
Tyre Characteristics of tracks at which Mercedes were comfortably fastest:
Shocking that Merc only been clearly faster on three tracks! And I have double checked!
Monza -Q3 Gap to rival 0.3s
Traction 3
Braking 4
Lateral 2
Tyre Stress 5
Asphalt grip 2
Asphalt abrasion 3
Downforce 1
Hungary -Q3 Gap to rival 0.4s
Traction 3
Braking 2
Lateral 4
Tyre Stress 3
Asphalt grip 3
Asphalt abrasion 2
Downforce 5
Portimao -Q3 Gap to rival 0.4s
Traction 4
Braking 4
Lateral 3
Tyre Stress 4
Asphalt grip ? (low from observation )
Asphalt abrasion ? (low from observation)
Downforce 4
It seems the car favours medium traction tracks (3 to 4), with moderate to high tyre stress (3 to 5). The car also had an advantage on slipperier tracks Asphalt grip and abrasion (low).
Upcoming Track
Istanbul Park
Traction 4
Braking 3
Lateral 4
Tyre Stress 5
Asphalt grip ? (expected to be low)
Asphalt abrasion ? (expected to be low)
Downforce 4
Judging by Istanbul Park's tyre parameters, Mercedes should in theory be ahead of RedBull! Well, the lateral rating of 4 mirrors Hungary, but Mercedes were stronger than RedBull there. So fingers crossed!
There could be another variable: VER can get COVID-19 ... not that I`m wishing him that ...
I won`t blame BOT too hard due to these circumstances:El Scorchio wrote: ↑26 Sep 2021, 22:32Presently, Bottas seems more likely to jump out of his way and give him a cordial wave and a round of applause on the way past!PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑26 Sep 2021, 21:52Brazil is hard an tyres and their could be rain. Change engine. Do Q3. Do the qualifying race and collect three points. Start at the back on hards and go long?
USA is also another good race to pass on if the car is set up for it.
In all of these options Bottas is key here because he is the only one that can deny Max a win if Lewis ever takes an engine penalty.
That would be a rubbish way for the season to end, so let's hope not.atanatizante wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 13:50There could be another variable: VER can get COVID-19 ... not that I`m wishing him that ...
Totally agree, that would be a very disappointing way to decide a season.El Scorchio wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 14:42That would be a rubbish way for the season to end, so let's hope not.atanatizante wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 13:50There could be another variable: VER can get COVID-19 ... not that I`m wishing him that ...
All of those things can be thrown out the window when he made zero effort to defend the move. If he fought it a bit and made Max go to the outside of the corner, he could have run him wide (and ironically, find out that Max won't back off and have a crash) and keep the position.atanatizante wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 14:41I won`t blame BOT too hard due to these circumstances:El Scorchio wrote: ↑26 Sep 2021, 22:32Presently, Bottas seems more likely to jump out of his way and give him a cordial wave and a round of applause on the way past!PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑26 Sep 2021, 21:52Brazil is hard an tyres and their could be rain. Change engine. Do Q3. Do the qualifying race and collect three points. Start at the back on hards and go long?
USA is also another good race to pass on if the car is set up for it.
In all of these options Bottas is key here because he is the only one that can deny Max a win if Lewis ever takes an engine penalty.
- he was starting on the harder tyre and we know W12 is warming up them slower than other cars, particularly RB16B
- track temp was 22 degrees Celsius, which was way too lower for their optimum operation range
- last but not least, he was on an even higher RW setup than HAM, something that gave him an almost 35km/h delta speed between VER on DRS (339km/h) and his top speed without DRS at S2/intermediate 2 when he reached almost 305km/h (20km/h less due to no DRS):
http://postimg.cc/w103qsSp
- not to mention at that lap (4 ?) he has had a slight oversteer moment at turn 10 which led him to put the power down later this affecting his top speed in S2/intermediate 2 ...
Verstappen would 100% back out of that one! It's a no brainer. There's no advantage to him doing it in that situation.SiLo wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 15:46All of those things can be thrown out the window when he made zero effort to defend the move. If he fought it a bit and made Max go to the outside of the corner, he could have run him wide (and ironically, find out that Max won't back off and have a crash) and keep the position.atanatizante wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 14:41I won`t blame BOT too hard due to these circumstances:El Scorchio wrote: ↑26 Sep 2021, 22:32
Presently, Bottas seems more likely to jump out of his way and give him a cordial wave and a round of applause on the way past!
- he was starting on the harder tyre and we know W12 is warming up them slower than other cars, particularly RB16B
- track temp was 22 degrees Celsius, which was way too lower for their optimum operation range
- last but not least, he was on an even higher RW setup than HAM, something that gave him an almost 35km/h delta speed between VER on DRS (339km/h) and his top speed without DRS at S2/intermediate 2 when he reached almost 305km/h (20km/h less due to no DRS):
http://postimg.cc/w103qsSp
- not to mention at that lap (4 ?) he has had a slight oversteer moment at turn 10 which led him to put the power down later this affecting his top speed in S2/intermediate 2 ...