what do you use for that?
Not to argue which driver is better, but since Silverstone we have new tyres. Since then, Verstappen has complained about under steer at a number of circuits. It’s a set up woe, otherwise you’re saying Perez is driving better / faster than verstappen today? I think Verstappen is ahead of Perez and the difference we are seeing is just set up.
I think you are right about the tires. Verstappen was complaining about the tires today when he was asked to change wing levels.AeroDynamic wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021, 16:16Not to argue which driver is better, but since Silverstone we have new tyres. Since then, Verstappen has complained about under steer at a number of circuits. It’s a set up woe, otherwise you’re saying Perez is driving better / faster than verstappen today? I think Verstappen is ahead of Perez and the difference we are seeing is just set up.
The ceiling of a car’s potential is not something you reach the same way or with the same straightforwardness at every circuit. Tyre temperature, tyre range, set up, are all hurdles you have to get past in order to try and maximise the time out of the car. Monaco for Hamilton was a clear example of this when you don’t sort out the set up, and mitigate any gremlins holding you back from extracting the potential.
People were saying Monaco as evidence one driver in a MCS wasn’t that good. Those same people’s logic could b applied today with some equally Asanine assertions to say One driver in the RB is not as good as as people think because he’s behind other cars than just the MCS, despite being in a championship fighting car.
Can anyone recall under steer / set up complaints prior to Silverstone for the RB? I’m suspecting a correlation problem for RB since the new rear Pirelli’s came in. It’s not been every circuit though, in Hungary they struggled to get on top of it, but they sorted it out in Silverstone, they had a good race in Zandvoort. It’s hit and miss at the moment. I’m sure they will sort it out tonight though. MCS sorted theirs out overnight back in Silverstone when they were a second off.Gillian wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021, 16:30I think you are right about the tires. Verstappen was complaining about the tires today when he was asked to change wing levels.AeroDynamic wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021, 16:16Not to argue which driver is better, but since Silverstone we have new tyres. Since then, Verstappen has complained about under steer at a number of circuits. It’s a set up woe, otherwise you’re saying Perez is driving better / faster than verstappen today? I think Verstappen is ahead of Perez and the difference we are seeing is just set up.
The ceiling of a car’s potential is not something you reach the same way or with the same straightforwardness at every circuit. Tyre temperature, tyre range, set up, are all hurdles you have to get past in order to try and maximise the time out of the car. Monaco for Hamilton was a clear example of this when you don’t sort out the set up, and mitigate any gremlins holding you back from extracting the potential.
People were saying Monaco as evidence one driver in a MCS wasn’t that good. Those same people’s logic could b applied today with some equally Asanine assertions to say One driver in the RB is not as good as as people think because he’s behind other cars than just the MCS, despite being in a championship fighting car.
Agreed. Although there are different opinions on where it is best, it is surely worst to have a terminal engine problem this weekend, a penalty for a new engine next race and then 2 tracks that have been favorable for RB in the past.foxmulder_ms wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021, 16:41Penalty should be taken in a circuit where overtaking is the easiest and also as early as possible. So Istanbul seems right..
OK, so what did Mercedes do exactly? Because they had two options, take penalties in Turkey/COTA (reasonable chances of victories) or take penalties in Mexico/Brazil (improbable win, but also tracks that allow overtaking).foxmulder_ms wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021, 16:41Penalty should be taken in a circuit where overtaking is the easiest and also as early as possible. So Istanbul seems right..
If the pace shown today holds, I think we can say that the trend continues, which could be helpful sorting out the remaining Merc/RBR strongholds.zibby43 wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021, 09:32. . . but there is a trend in that the tracks they were strongest at last year, they are strong at again this year: Silverstone, Hungary, Monza, Russia, Turkey (?)Just_a_fan wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021, 08:43Very different cars this year with the aero changes around the rear end. I don't expect Mercedes to be in anyway dominant here this year.