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[Emag]

Are you sure about Sector 2? Sector 1 and 2 seems to be made for Mclaren with quick turns and long straights for the Mercedes Engine. S3 looks like Ferrari made to me.

Forget the Mercedes engine- Ferrari have brought an update to their PU and they will be on a par with Mclaren now for straight line speed- their car is slightly better than Mclarens so with their new PU they have a better package

Mercedes and Honda still maintain a slight advantage on Ferrari, and McLaren is probably the least draggy car in the grid. So no, Ferrari will not be faster than McLaren on the straight unless they sacrifice downforce.

And when it comes to fast corners, McLaren is pretty much on par with RB / Merc. Medium-speed and slower is where they lose out. The slower the corner, the more they lose. In the hairpin at Monaco they were the slowest car on the grid ...

[Darth-Piekus]

What Emag said. Considering from the 6 last races 5 of them consist of long straights and fast curves Mclaren should have the upper hand.

[blastdoman]

I would also add the Austin bumps theme. Remember the complaints of the Motogp riders a week ago. Perhaps the car that adapts better to the bumps can get more points from the rival

[Darth-Piekus]

What do bumps say though regarding to Mclaren or Ferrari? Which car is more resistant to bumps?

[Emag]

I would also add the Austin bumps theme. Remember the complaints of the Motogp riders a week ago. Perhaps the car that adapts better to the bumps can get more points from the rival

That shouldn't be a concern for McLaren. They have been taking kerbs very aggressively this year, which suggests their car can handle it.

[Darth-Piekus]

Now the question is. Can Ferrari handle bumps as good as Mclaren?

[diffuser]

As far as I have noticed, none of you are very good at predicting the future. We'll find out when we get there which track suites who better.

[diffuser]

Are you sure about Sector 2? Sector 1 and 2 seems to be made for Mclaren with quick turns and long straights for the Mercedes Engine. S3 looks like Ferrari made to me.

https://i.imgur.com/8rjyXCV.png

These corners will definitely be very bad for McLaren and very good For Ferrari. The rest are actually not that slow apart from T1, T11 and T20.

you need to know the speed of the corners.

[Darth-Piekus]

As far as I have noticed, none of you are very good at predicting the future. We'll find out when we get there which track suites who better.

That is why I said these GPs should be able to suit Mclaren and not that Mclaren will definately have the upper hand. Only when we go there we will know.

[Emag]

Are you sure about Sector 2? Sector 1 and 2 seems to be made for Mclaren with quick turns and long straights for the Mercedes Engine. S3 looks like Ferrari made to me.

https://i.imgur.com/8rjyXCV.png

These corners will definitely be very bad for McLaren and very good For Ferrari. The rest are actually not that slow apart from T1, T11 and T20.

you need to know the speed of the corners.

I know the speed of the corners. The ones I circled are absolutely horrible for McLaren. They are slow and long as well. Double whammy.

And as far as predictions go, I have never made any predictions in this forum. I probably have said that x track might be good or bad, but I have never spoken in complete confidence about a predicted performance in a given track. Actually I was one of the few ones that was not hyping Monza for us because I wasn't sure if it was going to suit McLaren as much as it did in 2020.

The only thing that I am "guilty" of. Is that I tend to overreact on free practice session results. Can't help it I guess, I just want to see McLaren as high as possible.

[diffuser]

Edit
From the Map below, I don't think turns 12 trough 15 will be a problem(slow corners). After a 2nd look, 12 and 15 are slow. No idea about the middle ones. Emag might be right.
Turns 16,17,18 (copy of Hungry turns 1,2,3) look like they are flat out and probably will be.
Turn 1 will not.
Turn 2 can be.
Not sure of Susuki copied sequence of 3 trough 10.

11 will not be a problem.




Added another map...

[djos]

Daniel going to land in the points here.

He got close, but A/ Ocon refused to stop for new boots and B/ Daniels tires turned to crap with 2 laps to go.

Pretty frustrating weekend for McLaren in general, this track just doesn't suit the MCL35M's weird style.

[1m0bius1]

Tbh that engine change was the go to this weekend. Horrible track for Mclaren.

[mwillems]

Edit
From the Map below, I don't think turns 12 trough 15 will be a problem(slow corners). After a 2nd look, 12 and 15 are slow. No idea about the middle ones. Emag might be right.
Turns 16,17,18 (copy of Hungry turns 1,2,3) look like they are flat out and probably will be.
Turn 1 will not.
Turn 2 can be.
Not sure of Susuki copied sequence of 3 trough 10.

11 will not be a problem.


https://thejudge13.com/wp-content/uploa ... .jpg?w=497

Added another map...

https://maxf1.net/wp-content/uploads/20 ... to-FIA.jpg

Turn 2 is quite a short corner, so I don't think it will impact us much, but as you say turn 16-18 could hurt us. It is basically one long corner and that is what hurts out car. Thankfully not long after that corner there is a braking zone, so it could scrub some time, but it's not the worst situation ever, which would be going onto a long straight after that section.

[CjC]

Slightly the wrong thread team wise but I’m just wondering if Mclaren have taken the Mercedes update at Spa as well as the works team?

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/red-b ... t/6684975/