If Honda is as reliable as you say, why then Gasly has a 4 engine?
Exactly. I've no idea what the other poster is trying to prove.SiLo wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 12:17He's literally won here 5 times, and was on the podium 2 other times. Lowest finish was 4th in 2013.
Here's a running tally of points scored here:
Driver Points Total Lewis Hamilton 170 Sebastian Vettel 106 Valtteri Bottas 59 Max Verstappen 57 Nico Rosberg 56 Kimi Räikkönen 48 Fernando Alonso 43 Daniel Ricciardo 39 Felipe Massa 32 Carlos Sainz Jr. 30 Sergio Pérez 29 Romain Grosjean 25 Nico Hülkenberg 22 Jenson Button 21 Mark Webber 15 Charles Leclerc 13 Alexander Albon 10 Esteban Ocon 8 Pastor Maldonado 8 Lando Norris 6 Kevin Magnussen 4 Brendon Hartley 2 Felipe Nasr 2 Bruno Senna 1 Daniil Kvyat 1 Jean-Éric Vergne 1 Marcus Ericsson 1
Honda is best from every aspect this season. (You can erase you claim by thinking Bottas is using 5th engine.)
I'm not interested in your reasoning, what would happen if ...etusch wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 12:51Honda is best from every aspect this season. (You can erase you claim by thinking Bottas is using 5th engine.)
But what I want to emphasise is that how much Verstappen would be advantagous if he didn't lost his engine at silverstone crash. Think that how it would be if Verstappen finished that race even out of podium ( but realistically he would finish second at worst) and didn't get penalty at Sochi ? It is obvious that Honda has decent power, with very good reliability and many beneficial feature that helps Redbull to built best package of the season as a whole and this force Mercedes to push harder. They don't have much improvement with chassis and loaded everything to PU. Now we don't know if their engine will pull this load or not.
So you only get a new PU when it comes to reliability?
Gasly was set to start the 53-lap Italian Grand Prix from 19th place after crashing on the opening lap of the sprint qualifying.
The 2020 Italian Grand Prix winner tagged the rear of Daniel Ricciardo’s McLaren, breaking his front wing in the process.
As he turned into Curva Grande, the wing became lodged underneath his AT02, sending him off the track, through the gravel and into the barrier.
As such AlphaTauri and Honda opted to change his PU, putting him onto his fourth for this season.
Instead of starting P19, he’ll now be starting from the pit lane.
A Honda statement read: “After his accident yesterday and taking into consideration Pierre’s starting position, along with the team we have decided to introduce a whole new PU into the pool that he will run today.”
I understood, thank you, I have always respected people who cannot answer for their words. Good luck!
huh? I have no idea what you write and mean to say. My English is not that great.
You are trying to make me say what you want to see. how a meaningless approach. Do you want to see reliability or just want to see a small part which works for you ?
I do not and I do not have to prove anything here.El Scorchio wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 12:38Exactly. I've no idea what the other poster is trying to prove.SiLo wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 12:17He's literally won here 5 times, and was on the podium 2 other times. Lowest finish was 4th in 2013.
Here's a running tally of points scored here:
Driver Points Total Lewis Hamilton 170 Sebastian Vettel 106 Valtteri Bottas 59 Max Verstappen 57 Nico Rosberg 56 Kimi Räikkönen 48 Fernando Alonso 43 Daniel Ricciardo 39 Felipe Massa 32 Carlos Sainz Jr. 30 Sergio Pérez 29 Romain Grosjean 25 Nico Hülkenberg 22 Jenson Button 21 Mark Webber 15 Charles Leclerc 13 Alexander Albon 10 Esteban Ocon 8 Pastor Maldonado 8 Lando Norris 6 Kevin MagnussenI a 4 Brendon Hartley 2 Felipe Nasr 2 Bruno Senna 1 Daniil Kvyat 1 Jean-Éric Vergne 1 Marcus Ericsson 1
More than happy for you to show those points totals buddy, rather than just claiming that's what they will show.basti313 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 13:39I do not and I do not have to prove anything here.El Scorchio wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 12:38Exactly. I've no idea what the other poster is trying to prove.SiLo wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 12:17He's literally won here 5 times, and was on the podium 2 other times. Lowest finish was 4th in 2013.
Here's a running tally of points scored here:
Driver Points Total Lewis Hamilton 170 Sebastian Vettel 106 Valtteri Bottas 59 Max Verstappen 57 Nico Rosberg 56 Kimi Räikkönen 48 Fernando Alonso 43 Daniel Ricciardo 39 Felipe Massa 32 Carlos Sainz Jr. 30 Sergio Pérez 29 Romain Grosjean 25 Nico Hülkenberg 22 Jenson Button 21 Mark Webber 15 Charles Leclerc 13 Alexander Albon 10 Esteban Ocon 8 Pastor Maldonado 8 Lando Norris 6 Kevin MagnussenI a 4 Brendon Hartley 2 Felipe Nasr 2 Bruno Senna 1 Daniil Kvyat 1 Jean-Éric Vergne 1 Marcus Ericsson 1
Do an average point count for all tracks for the last 5 years without 20 and technical DNFs and you will see, that COTA, Spore and Monaco are the worst tracks by far for Ham. Take the qualifying performance and it is even worse.
So I simply disagree on the point that this is a particularly strong track for Ham.
And I disagree on the point that the race counts as I expect it to be super close with the Bulls. So Qualifying counts. If Merc locks a 1-2, Ham will win the race. If Ham starts from P3 next to Perez, he has to drive circles around Perez in turn 1. The race win will most probably be gone in this case.
Last 5 races at COTA he's had 3 poles and 3 wins. 2 of the wins from pole, 1 win from P2. Otherwise, he's finished 2nd (from P5) and 3rd (from P1) which was the "diva car" season. Not a bad result really.basti313 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 13:39
I do not and I do not have to prove anything here.
Do an average point count for all tracks for the last 5 years without 20 and technical DNFs and you will see, that COTA, Spore and Monaco are the worst tracks by far for Ham. Take the qualifying performance and it is even worse.
So I simply disagree on the point that this is a particularly strong track for Ham.
And I disagree on the point that the race counts as I expect it to be super close with the Bulls. So Qualifying counts. If Merc locks a 1-2, Ham will win the race. If Ham starts from P3 next to Perez, he has to drive circles around Perez in turn 1. The race win will most probably be gone in this case.
I know my tracks, and I know it’s not. I’m talking about the championship and coming races.zibby43 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 08:04AeroDynamic wrote: ↑18 Oct 2021, 13:48In USA I don’t know what to expect. If the RB has the same issues using a bigger wing, MCS could run away with it. If they use a bigger wing but without problems then I’m going to think Newey has solved their problem. They’ve had 2 weeks since Turkey to figure it out some more.
It’s going to be interesting. For me, Max is the favourite, I’ll be surprised if Mercedes can keep up at high altitude, if Perez and max finish 1-2 and keep Lewis P3 or lower, that could be some real big advances.
Austin is not high-altitude.
This has been a very strong circuit for Mercedes, and particularly Hamilton, for the entirety of the hybrid era.
I'm definitely becoming a Lando fan...mclaren111 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 15:53
I hope they can come back strong after Turkey...
Same as RB... Must get the set-up right...