Max Verstappen has won the United States GP after leading as of the first round of pitstops. Lewis Hamilton came close to a proper challenge at the very end of the race but had to settle for second, ahead of Sergio Perez who completed the podium.
That's the point.ringo wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 23:04If Max got the better start at lap 1 he would have been gone into the distance.
Lewis made it a good race. Max also raced very well, putting full trust into his car and driving without any errors.
Perez had issues with his drink so it would have been nice to see him pushing without that issue.
Great racing from Ferrari and Mclaren. I liked that battle.
Yep!darkpino wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 23:06I agree, the Mercedes doesn’t work in dirty air, it never did. If Max was P1 after T1 he would have run into the distance I thinkringo wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 23:04If Max got the better start at lap 1 he would have been gone into the distance.
Lewis made it a good race. Max also raced very well, putting full trust into his car and driving without any errors.
Perez had issues with his drink so it would have been nice to see him pushing without that issue.
Great racing from Ferrari and Mclaren. I liked that battle.
Max was managing his tyres to ensure he got good drive out of T11 and T20 on to the two straights. From T1 to T11 is twisty and it's difficult to get close so you can be a bit slower there and not be at risk on the straight after T11 IF you get good drive from T11. Likewise the section before T20 prevents the following driver from getting close and so allows a good drive off the last corner to defend against the following car.pantherxxx wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 22:59Super Max! Mercedes was way faster on the harder tyres, but Verstappen managed to pull out something incredible in the last few laps.
Way too early ti say that imo. With the bumps CotA was again a special track which is totally different than most other tracks.Bill_Kar wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 23:09Yeah, I think we can say now, with some confidence, that Max has pretty much got the championship in his bag.
COTA was supposed to be Mercedes territory and Red Bull turned up faster. After the dreadful (for Mercedes) Mexico/Brazil sequence, bar any misfortunes, Max will be above or about the 25 points mark. He can only trail Hamilton from there and it will be enough.
Great drive from both of them, fascinating stuff nonetheless!
Agreed. If Max had led out of T1 on the first lap, he'd have driven away from Lewis. The fact that he stayed so close for several laps shows that the car had pace to spare.
+1 It is far from over. Toto seems to grow grumpier for every race now...Just_a_fan wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 23:10Both drove superbly today - look how far they were ahead of the rest. In a league of their own all race.
The key name is James Allison.etusch wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 23:05I don't know how but merc's tyre life is so long. Even in this condition they stayed long to have tyre advantage. So it is not "way faster". Faster is also questionable. But even if merc were faster, there is a young man who knows how to drive, how to save tires and how to win. And at the end this is what matters.pantherxxx wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 22:59Super Max! Mercedes was way faster on the harder tyres, but Verstappen managed to pull out something incredible in the last few laps.
There are other possibilities I would prefer to choose.LM10 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 23:29The key name is James Allison.etusch wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 23:05
I don't know how but merc's tyre life is so long. Even in this condition they stayed long to have tyre advantage. So it is not "way faster". Faster is also questionable. But even if merc were faster, there is a young man who knows how to drive, how to save tires and how to win. And at the end this is what matters.
I am not sure why everything thinks the Mercedes is faster? The narrative seems to be that the Mercedes is faster, but at every race there is some reason why it can't be faster. It's getting tiresome. The Red Bull was clearly 3 tenths quicker this weekend, just look at the gap in qualifying, and look at the start of the race on equal tyres.JordanMugen wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 23:32Mercedes' handling was detuned for some reason, they might still be faster elsewhere.
For the avoidance of doubt "elsewhere", meaning at some other place, and "everywhere else" are different terms!west52keep64 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 23:36I am not sure why everything thinks the Mercedes is faster? The narrative seems to be that the Mercedes is faster, but at every race there is some reason why it can't be faster. It's getting tiresome. The Red Bull was clearly 3 tenths quicker this weekend, just look at the gap in qualifying, and look at the start of the race on equal tyres.JordanMugen wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 23:32Mercedes' handling was detuned for some reason, they might still be faster elsewhere.
Mercedes did go with higher ride height to deal with bumps in the esses. Mercedes looked like --- out turn 1 and 11. I would think that would have to do with that compromise. I'm sure if Mercedes hadn't gone with that compromise in set up they would have been within hundredths of each other.west52keep64 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 23:36I am not sure why everything thinks the Mercedes is faster? The narrative seems to be that the Mercedes is faster, but at every race there is some reason why it can't be faster. It's getting tiresome. The Red Bull was clearly 3 tenths quicker this weekend, just look at the gap in qualifying, and look at the start of the race on equal tyres.JordanMugen wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 23:32Mercedes' handling was detuned for some reason, they might still be faster elsewhere.
This media narrative of a dominant Mercedes with The Device™ needs to stop. Give the Red Bull team some credit, they've done a stellar job this year.
