You think Silverstone was a deliberate attempt to crash? Ok. I think I'll leave it there.Sieper wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 15:51To my eyes Silverstone was way worse then what Schumacher ever did (both on Hill (got away with it, as well as on villeneuve (did not get away with it). Bottas messed up in Hungary, but that did not seem on purpose to me (incredibly stupid yes, but those misjudgements happen easily when a horde of cars run towards 1 big corner).Just_a_fan wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 14:06This is real life, not Hollywood. Bottas isn't taking anyone out on purpose. Drivers occasionally mess up, yes, but the last person who deliberately attempted to take someone out in a championship context has been retired for several years.Sieper wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 13:49That is the play I expect as well.
And If Bottas can take out Max in an overtake attempt, even better.
This is imho already what happened in Turkey where Bottas also had a fresh engine. Perez also did not take out Hamilton in that race. If anything it was Hamilton forcing Perez off track.
Perez had every chance to take Hamilton out, in fact Hamilton forced him off track, but still he let Hamilton live. RBR is playing it fairly.
No one on the grid thinks about taking someone out. Except maybe Mazepin.godlameroso wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 16:33Neither Perez or Verstappen will even think about taking anyone out,
This has been a beaten to death topic. It's not that hard to accept that each individual will hold on to their opinion. So no need to question it or revive it.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 16:50You think Silverstone was a deliberate attempt to crash? Ok. I think I'll leave it there.Sieper wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 15:51To my eyes Silverstone was way worse then what Schumacher ever did (both on Hill (got away with it, as well as on villeneuve (did not get away with it). Bottas messed up in Hungary, but that did not seem on purpose to me (incredibly stupid yes, but those misjudgements happen easily when a horde of cars run towards 1 big corner).Just_a_fan wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 14:06
This is real life, not Hollywood. Bottas isn't taking anyone out on purpose. Drivers occasionally mess up, yes, but the last person who deliberately attempted to take someone out in a championship context has been retired for several years.
Perez had every chance to take Hamilton out, in fact Hamilton forced him off track, but still he let Hamilton live. RBR is playing it fairly.
If you are going to make claims like this you need to provide a verifiable/reliable source!
Can you really not remember these statements anymore?
Sieper wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 19:55Can you really not remember these statements anymore?
Here you go, 9 juli, 1 week before the race:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... aqPuD.html
I can’t find a link to the interview he gave on the eve of the GP but I am 100% sure he made statements about in racing everything is allowed. Very bold ones.
He is making the same kind of noises again. Preemptively even putting the blame in Max’ shoes, just like Hamilton and Mercedes were doing in the beginning of the season.
But in any case, however you look at these antics and whatever the outlook on Silverstone, I hope we can all agree it shouldn’t have happened and it should most definitely not happen again.
I don't have an opinion in this silly discussion but it's not that hard to verify what Sieper is saying. You can easily find it, but here you go... This is what he said right before Silverstone:
Verstappen sure did get blown away.“But this is so far from over. I don’t know what is he, 32 points behind Max? that’s a DNF away. And he’s in the hunt again.
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I think we’re going to Silverstone, blow everyone away, finish one and two and 30 seconds away from everybody else,” he added with his tongue-in-cheek.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... aqPuD.html
Yeah, but crashing in to someone to try to get a DNF for them and not you is a totally idiotic thing to do. It's more likely to end up with both cars out of the race. So, no, Hamilton didn't do it on purpose to Max.Gillian wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 21:22I don't have an opinion in this silly discussion but it's not that hard to verify what Sieper is saying. You can easily find it, but here you go... This is what he said right before Silverstone:
Verstappen sure did get blown away.“But this is so far from over. I don’t know what is he, 32 points behind Max? that’s a DNF away. And he’s in the hunt again.
.....
I think we’re going to Silverstone, blow everyone away, finish one and two and 30 seconds away from everybody else,” he added with his tongue-in-cheek.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... aqPuD.html