2021 Mclaren F1 Team

[Ground Effect]

The fan heist. Pretty cool, a once in a lifetime opportunity for those guys.

[Mansell89]

Thoughts on this weekend then guys?

Couple of posters think this venue might suit both McLaren and Ferrari.

I tend to think it’s more towards Ferrari than McLaren this weekend but would expect Norris to go well here.

[diffuser]

Thoughts on this weekend then guys?

Couple of posters think this venue might suit both McLaren and Ferrari.

I tend to think it’s more towards Ferrari than McLaren this weekend but would expect Norris to go well here.

It looks to be a rear limited track, I don't see why McLaren would struggle. Ferrari chassis didn't struggle anywhere, the PU just lacked power at power tracks. We'll see how much the Ferrari PU has increased since the last upgrade.

Expect McLaren to be ahead of Ferrari.

[Emag]

To be honest I am not sure. Because if Ferrari's low speed performance advantage is aero-dependent (unlikely), perhaps the lower air density can mitigate that advantage a bit and help swing the wind in McLaren's favor.

I like to go in pessimistically and say Ferrari will be better, so that if that turns out to be the case, I won't get disappointed. And if it doesn't, then even better because I like surprises.

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I have seen reports that Lando will receive a new PU in Mexico. Not official yet.

[michl420]

I still think halos should be allowed to be painted to reflect the drivers helmet for easy ID.

I use the green/yellow on the antenna (or is that the camera??) to identify the #1 #2 driver for each team. It's the only way I can tell.

I use the camera color too, but on onboards that is gone. A NOR or RIC on the HALO would be good.

[codetower]

I still think halos should be allowed to be painted to reflect the drivers helmet for easy ID.

I use the green/yellow on the antenna (or is that the camera??) to identify the #1 #2 driver for each team. It's the only way I can tell.

I use the camera color too, but on onboards that is gone. A NOR or RIC on the HALO would be good.

Ahh yes, onboard is a pain. There were a few races last year where Mercedes had a different color stripe for each driver on the Halo. I’m thinking all teams could incorporate this.

[mwillems]

Fascinating. Pretty much a new car.

[CjC]

I have seen reports that Lando will receive a new PU in Mexico. Not official yet.

Which would suggest Mclaren are braced for a difficult weekend pace wise if we use when the other teams have taken a grid penalty

[diffuser]

To be honest I am not sure. Because if Ferrari's low speed performance advantage is aero-dependent (unlikely), perhaps the lower air density can mitigate that advantage a bit and help swing the wind in McLaren's favor.

I like to go in pessimistically and say Ferrari will be better, so that if that turns out to be the case, I won't get disappointed. And if it doesn't, then even better because I like surprises.

Oh boy.

[mwillems]

To be honest I am not sure. Because if Ferrari's low speed performance advantage is aero-dependent (unlikely), perhaps the lower air density can mitigate that advantage a bit and help swing the wind in McLaren's favor.

I like to go in pessimistically and say Ferrari will be better, so that if that turns out to be the case, I won't get disappointed. And if it doesn't, then even better because I like surprises.

Ferrari feel that the high altitude will actually favour them over Mclaren.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferr ... n/6737467/

[Wouter]

This is not geoblocked. Normaly SKY is geoblocked.

[Darth-Piekus]

Considering how the rest of the season might go I wanted to clarify some things regarding Mclaren and Ferrari. People are free to disagree with me but that is my honest opinion.
1)Ferrari used to be a championship winning car two years ago and their aerodynamics were on par with Red Bull and Mercedes.The only reason they did not manage to do anything in 2020 and until recently in 2021 was because of the engine mostly being down not to mention had lots of years of budget advantage against Mclaren and in my opinion their chassis was much better. In my opinion this year Mclaren has reached Ferrari, Red Bull and Mercedes instead of Ferrari coming closer to Mclaren.
2)Mclaren had restrictions due to rules regarding engines compared to Ferrari and the other teams. Due to the engine change they had two less tokens just for the development to accomodate the engine change while the rest could develop and use the tokens for upgrades.
3)Ferrari pretty much caused that engine problem by themselves after being caught doing illegal activities with that engine in 2019. They are lucky they didn't recieve the Spygate treatment but an agreement under the table to get off scot free. That is in regarding to Ferrari having a low engine last years and until recently.

So the question remains. How much better would Mclaren be if they developed and used the tokens for upgrades like the rest? How much faster would they reach the top teams if the budget cap was implemented earlier?

[Ced]

Considering how the rest of the season might go I wanted to clarify some things regarding Mclaren and Ferrari. People are free to disagree with me but that is my honest opinion.
1)Ferrari used to be a championship winning car two years ago and their aerodynamics were on par with Red Bull and Mercedes.The only reason they did not manage to do anything in 2020 and until recently in 2021 was because of the engine mostly being down not to mention had lots of years of budget advantage against Mclaren and in my opinion their chassis was much better. In my opinion this year Mclaren has reached Ferrari, Red Bull and Mercedes instead of Ferrari coming closer to Mclaren.
2)Mclaren had restrictions due to rules regarding engines compared to Ferrari and the other teams. Due to the engine change they had two less tokens just for the development to accomodate the engine change while the rest could develop and use the tokens for upgrades.
3)Ferrari pretty much caused that engine problem by themselves after being caught doing illegal activities with that engine in 2019. They are lucky they didn't recieve the Spygate treatment but an agreement under the table to get off scot free. That is in regarding to Ferrari having a low engine last years and until recently.

So the question remains. How much better would Mclaren be if they developed and used the tokens for upgrades like the rest? How much faster would they reach the top teams if the budget cap was implemented earlier?

We will never know