2021 Mclaren F1 Team

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We definately have an emotional community.

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Ground Effect wrote:
06 Nov 2021, 23:38
The way some people on here moan before qualifying, you’d think we’d be 2 seconds of Ferrari and batting the HAAS cars. We could get beat by both cars tomorrow, it’s a possibility, but c’mon guys, give it a rest with the doom and gloom. The fight for P3 is still very much on. Either way, it’s been a great season so far, let’s enjoy the climax, shall we?
We gotta be realistic though. The only reason Daniel was so close to them, is because of the mega tow he recieved from Lando.

Could be an interesting race tomorrow, but overall, Ferrari definetly had the upper hand today.
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Didn't the Ferrari do the same thing? I remember them doing that in Q2 and the difference was 0.050 between Leclerc and Ricciardo. In any case I don't see any harm in doing that if it gives us an advantage tomorrow with the stronger Mclaren starts all season.

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Very good result from Dan to split the two Ferrari's and on the clean side to start. He seems to be settling in nicely now. Interesting to hear Andrea Stella too say they have made some changes towards Ricciardo with the car as well
which is helping and making the car better overall given Dan's input from driving various different cars over the years. It will also be carried over to next years car.

The McLaren Formula 1 team’s executive director of racing Andrea Stella says the MCL35M has “moved towards” Daniel Ricciardo in parallel with him adjusting his driving style.

“So some features, they are simply the way the car behaves in F1. But adding a new driver, a driver that has very clear references, that helped us understand that some of these features actually we needed to improve on our side.”

“So it's Daniel moving to the car, but there's been a bit of the car moving to Daniel, in 2021. Some of the learning we got will essentially as much as possible be translated into next year's car.

“That's why it took time, and I think reflection over the summer break might have helped this process of making these changes requited, the different style required, more of a natural process.

“We understand why the trajectory was slow, we understand why now we are in a better place. But we think there is more to come and we need to obviously put together a lot of work, and just carry on what we've been doing in the last month.”


https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... e/6752467/

Well done Lando as well for being a good team player too. Who knows how the tyre wear etc will pan out between us and Ferrari but if Dan can get ahead of both he is very good at defending. The McLaren is a beast off the line. Hopefully he can pull away though if he gets ahead but doesn't seem too likely given the improvements Ferrari have made recently, then again if tyre wear starts to bite on Ferrari we are a chance. In the end its a win if he can finish ahead of both and hopefully Lando can get in the points too. No idea about Alpha Tauri, they look quick but Gasly got a tow from Tsunoda so hard to say how much ahead they are in performance here as well. Its all to play for still lets have at it and beat those red cars!

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Great team effort from Daniel and Lando in qualifying! It’s awesome to see both drivers willing to help each other out to move the team forward.
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One good start is all it takes to have a great race tomorrow.

The potential for a two stop also brings Lando opportunities too. If he can use softs to make it to around 14th and then pit early into clean air for the first stop then he will be in a strong position. He can also still influence the Ferraris if he gets within their pit deltas.

Lots can happen, could be a good race.
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A lesson for young players here about judging competitiveness from Friday pace???
Certainly McLaren have been leaving a lot of work to do for the engineers for Saturday. Our best results have tended to come from weekends when we were quick from the get go.

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BMMR61 wrote:
07 Nov 2021, 09:40
A lesson for young players here about judging competitiveness from Friday pace???
Certainly McLaren have been leaving a lot of work to do for the engineers for Saturday. Our best results have tended to come from weekends when we were quick from the get go.
Yeah- if we are high up the pecking order on a Friday, our usual turning up of the power on Saturday should put us in very strong positions.

Seems both ourselves and Ferrari were MEGA conservative on Friday in Mexico.

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I’m not being funny here but whether you are a young player or an old player, us as fans and the team can’t be happy with qualifying. Ricciardo could only beat one Ferrari with a slipstream. Sainz beat him without a slipstream and Gasly comfortably beat Ric with a tow. Lando also said after qualifying that he still isn’t happy with the car so on balance JUST AS IT LOOKED ON FRIDAY Mclaren are the 5th quickest package.

Maybe some players should stop giving the players who are concerned about the lack of pace on a Friday such a hard time because it’s not far from the truth.

This rubbish about turning the PU up for Saturday is true but it’s not like Ferrari and Honda run their units at full power on a Friday and it needs to be discounted.
Just a fan's point of view

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mwillems wrote:
07 Nov 2021, 08:59
One good start is all it takes to have a great race tomorrow.

The potential for a two stop also brings Lando opportunities too. If he can use softs to make it to around 14th and then pit early into clean air for the first stop then he will be in a strong position. He can also still influence the Ferraris if he gets within their pit deltas.

Lots can happen, could be a good race.
Lando made it to Q3, so he’ll start on the medium tyres he set his quickest time on, so he’ll have a disadvantage compared to Ocon, Russell and Stroll. But hopefully he’ll still have a strong race with good management.
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mwillems wrote:
06 Nov 2021, 20:04
CjC wrote:
06 Nov 2021, 19:44
mwillems wrote:
06 Nov 2021, 19:25
Apparently Lando had said that since Sochi they now know that Ferrari has a straight line speed ADVANTAGE... Apparently worth several tenths.

Not a small PU upgrade.
Advantage?
So is that a HP advantage over the Mercedes of just a drag level compared to Mclaren?

Or as it’s Lando who is a glass half full guy, is it an advantage over him because he only had worn ICEs? (Obviously that’s not the case now)
I would assume all of the above are factors. Now he has a new PU perhaps they are closer.

On the Ferrari, apparently there are a few changes to the PU, but what has netted them a lot of time is moving from a 400w electrical system to an 800w electrical system and this is worth a couple of tenths on the straight. That's aside from the time from other changes.
To me it looks like a drag difference. The speed curve look almost the same. Separation happens at higher speeds where Drag's cost becomes exponentially more expensive.

As the previous guy said, on fresh tires, they come out of that last corner carrying so much more speed. What's interesting is at the end of lap, Leclerc is nolonger able to make the same progress out of that corner. Hard to tell. He may have made a mistake and shifted up a gear to early.

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The time of truth has arrived. Let's see if Daniel will capitalise from the Clean Side of the Field to gain the upper hand against the Ferraris and keep that place at the end of that straight line.

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Bad start this! No front wing for Danny Ric

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Welp, this is already a disaster
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Oh Daniel! Great start too, up to P4. Disaster.