2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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west52keep64 wrote:
08 Nov 2021, 23:53
Sieper wrote:
08 Nov 2021, 17:41
depends really on how heavy Bottas 3 fresh engine advantage really counts. If he takes pole/is in front of Max every remaining race Mercedes still have the initiative.
Bottas has so far been very fair to Max, almost to a fault. I don't see Bottas being a issue in the WDC fight.

If Max can take victory in Brazil, which is highly likely, I don't think there's anything Mercedes can do to stop him from taking the WDC. Even with if Max had a penalty for another engine change, he could still easily recover, just look at Russia.

The momentum has swung massively towards Verstappen in the title fight, there's no reason to believe that's going to change.
And so have been for example Perez and Tsunoda in Turkey. Both could have also put Lewis off the track (in fact, Lewis did that to Perez there) but those options are need not fair.

If Bottas and Hamilton are both in front the next 4 races, even when racing fair, they have a lot of options. You can’t expect Max to make such an overtake everywhere. In Mexico the slipstream is big. Brazil pole is much more important.

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Sieper wrote:
09 Nov 2021, 00:02
west52keep64 wrote:
08 Nov 2021, 23:53
Sieper wrote:
08 Nov 2021, 17:41
depends really on how heavy Bottas 3 fresh engine advantage really counts. If he takes pole/is in front of Max every remaining race Mercedes still have the initiative.
Bottas has so far been very fair to Max, almost to a fault. I don't see Bottas being a issue in the WDC fight.

If Max can take victory in Brazil, which is highly likely, I don't think there's anything Mercedes can do to stop him from taking the WDC. Even with if Max had a penalty for another engine change, he could still easily recover, just look at Russia.

The momentum has swung massively towards Verstappen in the title fight, there's no reason to believe that's going to change.
And so have been for example Perez and Tsunoda in Turkey. Both could have also put Lewis off the track (in fact, Lewis did that to Perez there) but those options are need not fair.

If Bottas and Hamilton are both in front the next 4 races, even when racing fair, they have a lot of options. You can’t expect Max to make such an overtake everywhere. In Mexico the slipstream is big. Brazil pole is much more important.
It's Sprint Qualifying! It means more variable for the weekend. RB need to carefully think through all possible options and do better home work than Mexico. They can't have such balance issues that have plagued them in Silverstone friday quali, Hungary quali and Mexico quali. They should do everything possible to come out of Brazil weekend with another 10 points of additional lead for Max, which would provide good cushion for the last 3 races. On paper, Jeddah seems like a Mercedes circuit with so much power demand and with their squatting device, the speed differential is going to be an issue to fight with. I am hoping, Jeddah wouldn't be ready in time.

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We don't need to afraid even if it is power track.

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There is a nice interview with Max in the November issue of Square Smile Magazine, "The men's luxury lifestyle magazine for the City of London", which came out today, but has already taken place in Russia:
"Max Verstappen: "I'm a more relaxed driver now"."

https://squaremile.com/sport/max-versta ... interview/

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Newey: Tire wear benefited Red Bull in Mexico

Max Verstappen gave Red Bull Racing a dominant victory at the Mexican Grand Prix. According to designer Adrian Newey, the fact that Mercedes could be settled so convincingly was not least due to tire wear.

"Our advantage here was that our tire wear was better. In qualifying we underperformed, but Max had a good start after that. Then the tire wear gave us the advantage," concluded Newey in the podcast F1 Nation. "With these tires it is so difficult to predict whether we will have more or less wear compared to Mercedes. This time it turned out well. However, the tires remain a blind spot and I don't think anyone really understands them."

"We've had some good races for sure. There's still a long way to go. We went to Silverstone with a good feeling, but then it fell apart and two races later we were behind Mercedes in both championships. We know how quickly it can change, but this was a good day."

"However, we have been in a situation since 2014 where we were not really able to go for the championship. If we are honest with ourselves, we have had a very competitive chassis several times between 2014 and now, but we had not the power unit to supplement it.
This year we have a good engine from Honda, which is doing a great job. It comes at the right time and that's exciting because it's a bit depressing when you come with a good car and you can't compete for the prizes."
https://nl.motorsport.com/f1/news/adria ... o/6763450/
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With the next Sprint coming:
It seems to me, that RedBull is much better to and into Turn 1 at the start than Merc. Except France I do not recall an occasion where Max lost more places than Ham at the start (removing torpedo of course). Especially the last two Sprints showed this.
On the other hand it looks like Merc has some issues with whatever start there is, they are not reliable and either taking too much or too litte risk (Baku, Hungary, Mexico as quick examples) and tend to lose in T1.

Is this "statistics out of my head" here correct?
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It's a short run to turn 1.
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A wheel of fortune, two Formula 1 drivers and a box of hidden surprises. Red Bull Racing's Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez go head to head in a brand new quiz, Box Box Box, to answer questions about all things Mobil 1.

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I have to admit, Honda could not leave soon enough for this Facebook crap to stop being posted...

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Hamilton taking a new ICE according to journalist on twitter. Had water pressure trouble in Mexico.

Red Bull need to deliver a 1 2 here.

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Snorked wrote:
11 Nov 2021, 18:50
Hamilton taking a new ICE according to journalist on twitter. Had water pressure trouble in Mexico.

Red Bull need to deliver a 1 2 here.
A journalist quoting Helmut Marko who is saying he heard a rumour. That's pretty sketchy.

If it is true, then it gives Max the title.
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Where was she quoting Marko from?
Hamilton will change the combustion engine in Interlagos. Mercedes thought they had solved the problem they had, but they noticed a drop in water pressure during the Mexico race

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Just_a_fan wrote:
11 Nov 2021, 19:00
Snorked wrote:
11 Nov 2021, 18:50
Hamilton taking a new ICE according to journalist on twitter. Had water pressure trouble in Mexico.

Red Bull need to deliver a 1 2 here.
A journalist quoting Helmut Marko who is saying he heard a rumour. That's pretty sketchy.

If it is true, then it gives Max the title.
She doesn't quote Marko. The water pressure leak as a reason, wasn't mentioned by Marko in the article where he makes the comment about Mercedes engine penalty. It's one poster's guesswork to relate a journalist's tweet to Marko's statement to downplay the rumor.
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Max Verstappen met Nelson Piquet, who showed him his beautiful collection of cars.
Here is an article about it in Portugese and English translation.
Nelson showed him his FW11B, with this car he became WDC in 1987, powered by Honda and using products of Mobile1.
Max now in 2021 is driving the RB16B, powered by Honda and using products of Mobile1. :D

Verstappen was delighted with the famous garage of the three-time champion, in his home, in Lago Sul,
where he has a collection of vintage cars .
Portugese: https://gpslifetime.com.br/conteudo/cot ... son-piquet

English: https://gpslifetime-com-br.translate.go ... tr_pto=nui

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Nelson Piquet ( Williams ) FW11B - GP do Brasil 1987 Jacarepaguá

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