Well
I just posted the same thing in the race thread!
I've always been very diplomatic in how I discuss things. But diplomacy has ended today.
I think that this is the right approach going forward, because if it isn't challenged you will end up in a situation where it is impossible to overtake on track without risking being run off the track or damage to the car.dans79 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 17:53I just posted the same thing in the race thread!
and lets not forget what Toto said!
https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/merce ... l/6782936/I've always been very diplomatic in how I discuss things. But diplomacy has ended today.
20m onto the run off is not 'on the racetrack'Jaisonas wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 19:11https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/statu ... 6107654150
That last statement aged like fine wine
https://i.imgur.com/XZwszX0.jpg
Damn, the projection is strong on this oneJaisonas wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 19:11https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/statu ... 6107654150
That last statement aged like fine wine
https://i.imgur.com/XZwszX0.jpg
I mean there is a clear difference and a very solid reason for Mercedes to challenge this. The challenge establishes whether this is a valid way to race regardless of if there is a punishment or not.Jaisonas wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 19:11https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/statu ... 6107654150
That last statement aged like fine wine
Lewis Hamilton topped qualifying in Brazil before being disqualified, then made up 15 places in the Sprint, took another grid penalty for an engine change, then made up another 10 places to win the Sao Paulo Grand Prix. So how did he do it? Mark Hughes looks at the factors that helped the Mercedes driver – with technical illustrations from Giorgio Piola.
Marty_Y wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 22:53https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... RzRnl.html
Lewis Hamilton topped qualifying in Brazil before being disqualified, then made up 15 places in the Sprint, took another grid penalty for an engine change, then made up another 10 places to win the Sao Paulo Grand Prix. So how did he do it? Mark Hughes looks at the factors that helped the Mercedes driver – with technical illustrations from Giorgio Piola.
Also this referenced article also has a good bit of information.As is well known, Mercedes have been carrying a reliability issue with its power units during the second half of the season, believed to centre around a materials batch issue, with cracks developing around components in the bottom end of the engine.
With Hamilton’s PU4 (introduced in Istanbul) and PU5, Mercedes believe they have largely solved that issue. But without the introduction of the fifth engine, PU4 would have been required to do all seven races since its introduction.
Essentially the Mercedes was more balanced than the Red Bull in how it used its front and rear tyres. The set-up Lewis referred to came from some fairly deep analysis with the Mercedes team back at base. In 2019 it had a dominant car and yet had been beaten quite handily by Red Bull around Interlagos.
“When we looked at the aero package, the mechanical package, the power unit, we weren’t finding answers as to why were we so poor in 2019,” said trackside engineering chief Andrew Shovlin. “So it was all about set-up. We were determined to rethink things and come here with a car which could set pole position.”
dans79 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 23:09Marty_Y wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 22:53https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... RzRnl.html
Lewis Hamilton topped qualifying in Brazil before being disqualified, then made up 15 places in the Sprint, took another grid penalty for an engine change, then made up another 10 places to win the Sao Paulo Grand Prix. So how did he do it? Mark Hughes looks at the factors that helped the Mercedes driver – with technical illustrations from Giorgio Piola.
This is a really interesting bit of information.Also this referenced article also has a good bit of information.As is well known, Mercedes have been carrying a reliability issue with its power units during the second half of the season, believed to centre around a materials batch issue, with cracks developing around components in the bottom end of the engine.
With Hamilton’s PU4 (introduced in Istanbul) and PU5, Mercedes believe they have largely solved that issue. But without the introduction of the fifth engine, PU4 would have been required to do all seven races since its introduction.Essentially the Mercedes was more balanced than the Red Bull in how it used its front and rear tyres. The set-up Lewis referred to came from some fairly deep analysis with the Mercedes team back at base. In 2019 it had a dominant car and yet had been beaten quite handily by Red Bull around Interlagos.
“When we looked at the aero package, the mechanical package, the power unit, we weren’t finding answers as to why were we so poor in 2019,” said trackside engineering chief Andrew Shovlin. “So it was all about set-up. We were determined to rethink things and come here with a car which could set pole position.”
Yeah, Merc didn’t have to manufacture the evidence with Alex Albon.west52keep64 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 00:30Interesting, very interesting. So Mercedes have asked for a review, as is their right, and this is exactly what Red Bull did after Silverstone. The key difference here I feel, is the new evidence is quite clearly new because it wasn't available to the stewards at the time, and it's absolutely relevant. So on that basis it does seem like the review will conclude an appeal can be heard. That means the stewards will look at the incident again and make a new decision using the new evidence.
Apparently it was a batch issue for materials and it was rectified with PU4 (the Turkey unit) for Hamilton (per Mark Hughes).ringo wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 03:35That Honda engine is annoyingly reliable.
If it goes to the end that's 8 races straight. Very impressive. It's been in from Russia.
That block must be made out of titanium. I kinda waiting to see if even the slightest of issue happens to any of their units.
Mercedes have a lot of work to do to create a similarly bullet proof engine next year. And they dont have an aircraft division to take materials and turbine knowledge from.
This year's unit has worn out like paper straw in a hot beverage.