Ferrari F60

[ISLAMATRON]

What caused the double retirement for Ferrari in the Melbourne race?

Was it KERS for Massa and a wall slap for Kimi, or was it both KERS related failures?

As far as I've heard, it's a wall slap from Kimi, probably broken something from that. But Massa... I've just read "problem" so KERS seems likely

KERS is not something that would stop the car from running(short of a fire or something).... when was the last time you heard of someone retiring because of the drink bottle malfunctioning. If the KERS doesnt work then dont press the button is all.

[Metar]

Except if it causes other electrical problems - but I agree, generally, a KERS malfunction shouldn't interfere too much. (also, the hours-long stoppage at Bahrain due to KERS is different - it was testing, and they wanted to keep testing the system).

Kimi's wall-slap seemed quite violent, against the suspension: we've seen wishbones break from far gentler impacts..

[ISLAMATRON]

Except if it causes other electrical problems - but I agree, generally, a KERS malfunction shouldn't interfere too much. (also, the hours-long stoppage at Bahrain due to KERS is different - it was testing, and they wanted to keep testing the system).

Kimi's wall-slap seemed quite violent, against the suspension: we've seen wishbones break from far gentler impacts..

KERS is isolated from all the other electrical systems in the car.

[Metar]

In that case.. Random hydraulics failure? Gearbox malfunction? I hope it's not the engine...

[Bob Brown]

Does anyone have a picture of the slit (toyota like hole) in the lower plane of the rear wing?? Intersted to see it.

[shir0]

The DNFs, IMO, are strategic in nature. Why keep running when there's no more hope for points? DNFs doesn't mean you'll get negative money from FOM at the end of the season. Someone already said it and I'm going to say it again. This season is practically a season long endurance race at this point. If you can save the engines for later, then might as well do it. And, after all, a 20-place grid penalty during every race you use a 9th engine (if you're forced to use a 9th engine) is a whole mother-eF-ing lot of penalty even for the fastest cars on the grid.

[ISLAMATRON]

I thought i was 10 grid position penalty? either one is bad. You are very correct, no need to race unless you can get points... but thats why I would like them to award points through the whole field... no fun in watching them park it in the garage.

[roost89]

In that case.. Random hydraulics failure? Gearbox malfunction? I hope it's not the engine...

On a Q&A on the Autosport website, it states that Massa thinks it was a power steering failure.

Q. What went wrong with your car?

Felipe MassaFelipe Massa: I think it was the power steering. I'm not so sure because they are checking the car. Just suddenly the car was pushing to the right and I couldn't drive straight anymore.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74074

[Kester]

And, after all, a 20-place grid penalty during every race you use a 9th engine (if you're forced to use a 9th engine) is a whole mother-eF-ing lot of penalty even for the fastest cars on the grid.

It's 10 places and it's only the first time you use a 9th engine. Another penalty would occur the first time you used a 10th engine, and so on.

[mx_tifoso]

Autosport - Q & A with Stefano Domenicali

... With regard to Felipe we had an upright that was broken on the left hand side. So, it is a mechanical failure. We do not yet understand what has happened."

Massa said it was a power steering failure, but he must have been assuming since the car hadn't been checked out properly yet.

[vasia]

Looks like I was not the only one that noticed the airflow problems at the rear of the Ferrari when the F60 first debuted. Looks like people at Ferrari noticed too and made the rear tighter and more aerodynamically efficient later in winter testing.

As for the race, horrible disappointment. I expected stronger race pace from Ferrari, not to mention qualifying pace as well. The reliability problems on both cars is also a big issue. Sepang is hard on the cars, so Ferrari will not have it easy in terms of reliability there either.

[alvinkhorfire]

Is it possible to reduce the size of sidepod inlet of F60? We all know that both Mclaren and Brawn cars has relatively small sidepod inert, this has helped in reducing drag. Assuming both Ferrari and Mercedes engines produce similar power, the Mercedes engine has better cooling ability, so the sidepod inlet can be made smaller. I am hoping that the Ferrari can try to improve the cooling ability of the engine, so that they can somehow reduce the sidepod inlet to around the size of Mclaren ones.

[zgred]

Rear wing slot


No paint under the nose


Suspension and brakes


What is this?

[slimjim8201]

What is this?

Small axial fan for cooling.

[shir0]

It's 10 places and it's only the first time you use a 9th engine. Another penalty would occur the first time you used a 10th engine, and so on.

I thought i was 10 grid position penalty? <snip>

Oh, I'm sorry Kester...typo. It is a 10-place penalty.

But NO. It's not for "the first time you used a 9th engine... and so on". < discussion on engine usage for 2009 >