2021 Mclaren F1 Team

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1m0bius1
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The wind tunnel and sim are taking far too long. They need to expedite this somehow. Im hoping they get these online by mid next year so it can at least be used in some capacity for the 2023 car. Are they still in the design phase for the wind tunnel? Wind tunnels normally take 7-9 months to complete.

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Mclarensenna
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1m0bius1 wrote:
21 Nov 2021, 06:43
The wind tunnel and sim are taking far too long. They need to expedite this somehow. Im hoping they get these online by mid next year so it can at least be used in some capacity for the 2023 car. Are they still in the design phase for the wind tunnel? Wind tunnels normally take 7-9 months to complete.
Unfortunately it seems the latest wind tunnels take longer to complete than 7-9 months.
Ferrari just got their new simulator online which took 2 years to design and build.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/motors ... NewsSearch

But according to this article below from a few months ago the the sim and wind tunnel wont be ready until 2023. We know covid slowed things down but this is just taking forever.
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/29/mc ... nd-tunnel/
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Darth-Piekus wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 22:48
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20 Nov 2021, 20:29
Brawn a small team🤣🤣🤣

I quite sure at that point in time that car was the car that had the most development budget ever spent on it. You're in a dream world if you think that happens without budget in this age of F1.
Technically BAR Honda which became Honda and which became Brawn GP was a smaller team than the likes of Mclaren, Ferrari, Williams and Benneton which later became Renault. They were a 4th to 5th team with an exception of 2004. Honda has abandoned F1 and the new team didn't even do testing only to demolish the competition due to a giant loophole and nothing more. Ross Brawn did that and then Andrian Newey took it even further and those two aren't the first time they are producing such a result. I am sure James Key has all the capabilities of doing that considering Mclaren had an impressive innovation this year after so many years.
Completely off topic, but you're so off the mark on this one.

It has been widely reported in the past how both Honda and Super Aguri were heavily involved in the R&D of what became the BGP001. They reportedly had 5 wind tunnels running to test different ideas and focus on the ones that showed promise. In fact I've seen estimates that the car cost over half a billion dollars making it the most expensive F1 car ever developed.
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adrianjordan wrote:
21 Nov 2021, 10:52
Darth-Piekus wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 22:48
thestig84 wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 20:29
Brawn a small team🤣🤣🤣

I quite sure at that point in time that car was the car that had the most development budget ever spent on it. You're in a dream world if you think that happens without budget in this age of F1.
Technically BAR Honda which became Honda and which became Brawn GP was a smaller team than the likes of Mclaren, Ferrari, Williams and Benneton which later became Renault. They were a 4th to 5th team with an exception of 2004. Honda has abandoned F1 and the new team didn't even do testing only to demolish the competition due to a giant loophole and nothing more. Ross Brawn did that and then Andrian Newey took it even further and those two aren't the first time they are producing such a result. I am sure James Key has all the capabilities of doing that considering Mclaren had an impressive innovation this year after so many years.
Completely off topic, but you're so off the mark on this one.

It has been widely reported in the past how both Honda and Super Aguri were heavily involved in the R&D of what became the BGP001. They reportedly had 5 wind tunnels running to test different ideas and focus on the ones that showed promise. In fact I've seen estimates that the car cost over half a billion dollars making it the most expensive F1 car ever developed.
There were atleast 5 versions of nosecones tested alone if i remember correctly.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

ScottR267
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Penalties for max and Bottas so far, promoting Lando

ScottR267
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No penalty for Sainz

Seerix
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P4 start with ALO and GAS ahead, a lot to play for today.

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Seerix wrote:
21 Nov 2021, 15:04
P4 start with ALO and GAS ahead, a lot to play for today.
Not seen anything on the length of run to T1, however could we get behind Gasly in the slipstream?

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Not sure if the penalties change much, Verstappen and Bottas have the pace to get back into the top 3. The start is going to be very interesting. Alonso in P3 always starts well, and is super aggressive. Lando NEEDS to keep his nose clean, as there is potential there for a big result.

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ScottR267 wrote:
21 Nov 2021, 15:19
Seerix wrote:
21 Nov 2021, 15:04
P4 start with ALO and GAS ahead, a lot to play for today.
Not seen anything on the length of run to T1, however could we get behind Gasly in the slipstream?
The run into turn 1 is short, but through T1 to T5 (all high speed) could see a lot of cars side by side, before the slower hairpin at T6. The risk of contact feels high to me!

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Darth-Piekus
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Let's all enjoy the rest of the season no matter what happens. Good luck for the team today and let's go fully aggressive. We got nothing else to lose.

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Not the best of starts for both cars

SmallSoldier
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Starting in the dirty side of the track didn’t help

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Get in Lando!

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Xero
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Good recovery from Lando, Alonso next! Perez and Bottas are clear dangers behind though.