They signed contracts and whatnot. Red Bull will get the IP, they started building up their own engine department. There's no way back, unless they want to pay for all the investment that Red Bull made.
They signed contracts and whatnot. Red Bull will get the IP, they started building up their own engine department. There's no way back, unless they want to pay for all the investment that Red Bull made.
IP stays with Honda. Red Bull can use it. Next season, Honda will continue with track side and operation support from Japan.Honda will also continue to assemble engine for RBR in 2022.mzso wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 11:35They signed contracts and whatnot. Red Bull will get the IP, they started building up their own engine department. There's no way back, unless they want to pay for all the investment that Red Bull made.
Does that mean they will still have a presence trackside, and a name on the car?rogazilla wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 18:43IP stays with Honda. Red Bull can use it. Next season, Honda will continue with track side and operation support from Japan.Honda will also continue to assemble engine for RBR in 2022.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/red-bull ... 2021-plan/
These are definitely facts. I fail to see any relevance to what I said though.rogazilla wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 18:43IP stays with Honda. Red Bull can use it. Next season, Honda will continue with track side and operation support from Japan.Honda will also continue to assemble engine for RBR in 2022.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/red-bull ... 2021-plan/
presence yes, name on the car maybe not - Wazari told in the engine topic the new engine won't be called a Honda, but its a Honda. so i think we're going to see Red Bull Powertrains on the side of the car next year.Big Tea wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 21:39Does that mean they will still have a presence trackside, and a name on the car?rogazilla wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 18:43IP stays with Honda. Red Bull can use it. Next season, Honda will continue with track side and operation support from Japan.Honda will also continue to assemble engine for RBR in 2022.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/red-bull ... 2021-plan/
You said Red Bull Powertrains will get the Honda IP, they will not. They will be allowed to use it, but the IP will remain with Honda and Red Bull Powertrains won't get the full details (so they can transfer it to Audi!) by any means.mzso wrote: ↑18 Dec 2021, 10:10These are definitely facts. I fail to see any relevance to what I said though.rogazilla wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 18:43IP stays with Honda. Red Bull can use it. Next season, Honda will continue with track side and operation support from Japan.Honda will also continue to assemble engine for RBR in 2022.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/red-bull ... 2021-plan/
No new development beyond 2025. I think that Honda Milton Keynes is integrated into Red Bull from 2022.Snorked wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 14:51Honda to remain building the PU for Red Bull until 2025, Yamamoto moving to Red Bull?
https://racingnews365.com/exclusive-hon ... nd-of-2025
Why the hell did they even leave?