2022 Aerodynamic Regulations Thread

[Hoffman900]

Would the incorporation of e.g. heat pipes in the top surface of Venturi tunnels have any positive effect on the air flow? Would it be legal?

It’s all going to be heat soaked from the drivetrain and coolers.

The temp that matters is the surface and ~1ft off the surface of the track.

Still want to see someone show me the math that air will approach SOS through the tunnels, in the box the FOM is holding them in.

[wogx]

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[thestig84]

The irony of the timing of the show and tell videos. Sure new cars will bring some content but after that they are the most heavily prescribed cars ever with most spec parts.
The 'show and tell' would have been better in many previous years imo.

Edit: agree the teams wont actually show the good stuff anyway!

[Hoffman900]

This reminds me of what NASCAR had been been doing since the 1970s, where parts confiscated at tech were put in display for teams and media with a “don’t do this”. They don’t do that anymore (that I know of), but again, definitely a nod to that in a way.

[mclaren111]

Takes away the mistery of team's developments which is such a nice aspect of F1...

F1 is becoming Indycar...

[jjn9128]

I don't believe teams will actually tell anything of significance with the show. Anything they do say will be worse than a motorsport.com comment section level engineering.

[godlameroso]

Would the incorporation of e.g. heat pipes in the top surface of Venturi tunnels have any positive effect on the air flow? Would it be legal?

It’s all going to be heat soaked from the drivetrain and coolers.

The temp that matters is the surface and ~1ft off the surface of the track.

Still want to see someone show me the math that air will approach SOS through the tunnels, in the box the FOM is holding them in.

You have to know the volume and flow rate, we can use car speed as the velocity for area 1, but we don't know the area of the tunnel inlet or the constriction(A2). The flow velocity is a square ratio based on inlet volume and venturi volume. I know that with water, a 6:1 inlet to nozzle ratio will create a corresponding ~6x increase in flow speed. You only need a mach number greater than .3 or 370kph for compressibility effects to take place. If there is a 6:1 ratio of flow velocity at the throat vs the inlet, at 70kph you can have local flow velocity at the throat be higher than mach .3, at 180kph vehicle speed you would have sonic choking at the throat.

[Hoffman900]

I don't believe teams will actually tell anything of significance with the show. Anything they do say will be worse than a motorsport.com comment section level engineering.

Exactly this.

[SiLo]

Would the incorporation of e.g. heat pipes in the top surface of Venturi tunnels have any positive effect on the air flow? Would it be legal?

It’s all going to be heat soaked from the drivetrain and coolers.

The temp that matters is the surface and ~1ft off the surface of the track.

Still want to see someone show me the math that air will approach SOS through the tunnels, in the box the FOM is holding them in.

You have to know the volume and flow rate, we can use car speed as the velocity for area 1, but we don't know the area of the tunnel inlet or the constriction(A2). The flow velocity is a square ratio based on inlet volume and venturi volume. I know that with water, a 6:1 inlet to nozzle ratio will create a corresponding ~6x increase in flow speed. You only need a mach number greater than .3 or 370kph for compressibility effects to take place. If there is a 6:1 ratio of flow velocity at the throat vs the inlet, at 70kph you can have local flow velocity at the throat be higher than mach .3, at 180kph vehicle speed you would have sonic choking at the throat.

I don't think the ratio will be anywhere near 6:1. But it's an interesting concept

[jjn9128]

Good view of the "bib" and tunnel entry vanes on the mockup car from the latest driver61 video

[wesley123]

F1 is becoming Indycar...

Only significantly more expensive

[Hoffman900]

Good view of the "bib" and tunnel entry vanes on the mockup car from the latest driver61 video
https://media.discordapp.net/attachment ... height=590

Curious if the design principal of these cars leads to more instances of debris being thrown at a trailing driver.

[FW17]

Takes away the mistery of team's developments which is such a nice aspect of F1...

F1 is becoming Indycar...

WTF are you talking about?

[jjn9128]

Curious if the design principal of these cars leads to more instances of debris being thrown at a trailing driver.

wouldn't think so. There was more little bits with the bargeboards and pre-2019 front wings. The "floor edge wings" may not last the full race though.

[CMSMJ1]

Curious if the design principal of these cars leads to more instances of debris being thrown at a trailing driver.

wouldn't think so. There was more little bits with the bargeboards and pre-2019 front wings. The "floor edge wings" may not last the full race though.

Do the regs preclude these floor edge things becoming as developed as the toothy and organic bargeboards we've got used to? Have they always to present a smooth edge?

I think the first few cars we see dangling on cranes or the spare floors in the back of the garage will furnish considerable excitement in these pages. Surely we'll see some interesting design.