Aside from multiple occasions of allowing cars on track at unmitigated speed with crew and/or recovery vehicles still present...AeroDynamic wrote: ↑13 Jan 2022, 16:35I hope they only remove Massi from the race director post. He has been very good at managing track safety. They should just move him to an accompanying role to a new race director. He is still competent in other areas.
Isn’t that more race director role though? We agree he was poor in that role and as I said, he should be removed from that role and repurposed into some supporting role.cooken wrote: ↑13 Jan 2022, 16:55Aside from multiple occasions of allowing cars on track at unmitigated speed with crew and/or recovery vehicles still present...AeroDynamic wrote: ↑13 Jan 2022, 16:35I hope they only remove Massi from the race director post. He has been very good at managing track safety. They should just move him to an accompanying role to a new race director. He is still competent in other areas.
Ok I see what you mean there. "Managing track safety" I interpreted as part of the race director's scope.AeroDynamic wrote: ↑13 Jan 2022, 16:59Isn’t that more race director role though? We agree he was poor in that role and as I said, he should be removed from that role and repurposed into some supporting role.cooken wrote: ↑13 Jan 2022, 16:55Aside from multiple occasions of allowing cars on track at unmitigated speed with crew and/or recovery vehicles still present...AeroDynamic wrote: ↑13 Jan 2022, 16:35I hope they only remove Massi from the race director post. He has been very good at managing track safety. They should just move him to an accompanying role to a new race director. He is still competent in other areas.
But you need someone who checks the circuit pre-event, determines what is a hazard or unsafe, and has it addressed. He seemed to do that well enough. Why create strain on a new race director learning the ropes in that area too, when we can have a dedicated race director who focuses his time and energy on being familiar with the racing rules, and competent at putting his foot down with his decisions and not likely so succumb to pressures that lead our sport into a Massi mess: let them race, no investigation, ‘we went car racing’
It would also be a step in the direction of developing a team in the fia race control room.
The significant difference is that you can develop yourself out of it. You can't really regain trust that easily.
I don’t think it means anything of any real material yet. People are comparing an October 2021 document to a January 2022 one.
I think that's a bit of a leap, I don't believe Peter Bayer has the relevant experience to be a race director. I think this is the FIA adding a little more hierarchy to the leadership of F1.
Yup- a lot of the drivers were unhappy after Brazil and his comments that what Verstappen was allowed to do in Brazil wouldn't, or wouldn't necessarily be allowed- but might be allowed- in subsequent races, or words to that effect. Basically offering them no guidance on how to race (passing the buck to the stewards) and what was or wasn't within the rules and they simply didn't know what was legal defence of a position or not any longer. You can't work like that. Absolute shambles. But then again he had Wheatley in his ear immediately with that 'This is all about letting them race' codswallop trying to ensure Verstappen wasn't (although he should have been, IMO, in that situation) penalised for driving someone else 40 feet off the racetrack. As many have said, I'm glad that s*** isn't going to be allowed to happen any more but Masi still has to go, for his litany of bad, inexplicable and plain wrong decisions.wesley123 wrote: ↑13 Jan 2022, 18:37The significant difference is that you can develop yourself out of it. You can't really regain trust that easily.
Masi has basically told everyone that he can do what he wants to because of catch-all clauses in the rulebook. Not only that, but he has also told the whole field of drivers that what is and isn't allowed will be guesswork.
You literally have no clue what can and cannot be done under this guy, which is precisely the thing that should not be the case under any circumstance in a sport. If this stays the same, you have set some serious precedent where it is okay that the sport turns into some sort of gameshow.
I would read that as out ranking him and all other series directors. I.E, gaffer of all the single seat series and everyone comes under him.
Same. Masi's replacement (or worst case scenario, Masi) will be answerable to Peter Bayer. That's how I read it. It seems like Masi had stronger ties to and was more under the influence Brawn and FOM last season which is probably a clear conflict of interests and may explain (but in no way excuse) the motivation for some of his behaviour.