2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[JPower]

Read a report saying they are closing on an extension for Sainz, possibly out to 2024.

I think this driver lineup is ready for a championship run, just need the car to make it happen.

[Henri]

Who os Ferraris chief aero man ?.. because ferrari have not had good aero since 2018

[JPower]

Who os Ferraris chief aero man ?.. because ferrari have not had good aero since 2018

Diego Tondi for the SF21.

[Henri]

Who os Ferraris chief aero man ?.. because ferrari have not had good aero since 2018

Diego Tondi for the SF21.

Did he also contribute to the sf71 or other people?

[JPower]

Who os Ferraris chief aero man ?.. because ferrari have not had good aero since 2018

Diego Tondi for the SF21.

Did he also contribute to the sf71 or other people?

Most of the team in charge of the SF71 is still working at Ferrari. They've just been promoted. They did a good job on the SF21. Don't see why they can't do well with the new car.

[JPBD1990]

Ferrari back on their BS by the sounds of it. A replacement lined up for Binotto, pending the 2022 car performance. Back to the revolving door policy that has worked so well for the last 15 years. Smh.

All we can do is hope that the 2022 rig does the job.

Edit: included the article link. Also, why block Todt? That one seems absurd to me. Is Elkann a plant?

https://www.formu1a.uno/il-possibile-ri ... -e-elkann/

[Henri]

Ferrari back on their BS by the sounds of it. A replacement lined up for Binotto, pending the 2022 car performance. Back to the revolving door policy that has worked so well for the last 15 years. Smh.

All we can do is hope that the 2022 rig does the job.

Edit: included the article link. Also, why block Todt? That one seems absurd to me. Is Elkann a plant?

https://www.formu1a.uno/il-possibile-ri ... -e-elkann/

Binotto needs to perform the car needs to be up there with Mercedes and red bull.. the 2019 engine embarrassment where started by binotto ferrari have not won a race since 2019

[AeroDynamic]

Ferrari back on their BS by the sounds of it. A replacement lined up for Binotto, pending the 2022 car performance. Back to the revolving door policy that has worked so well for the last 15 years. Smh.

All we can do is hope that the 2022 rig does the job.

Edit: included the article link. Also, why block Todt? That one seems absurd to me. Is Elkann a plant?

https://www.formu1a.uno/il-possibile-ri ... -e-elkann/

Binotto needs to perform the car needs to be up there with Mercedes and red bull.. the 2019 engine embarrassment where started by binotto ferrari have not won a race since 2019

You really think binotto is the first of the problems? Ferrari have the drivers, they can get the car, they’ve done it many times before, but they either need a dominant car, or, a competitive strategy team. Because if they rely on the latter, better strategy teams in RB and Mercedes will be too much.

Even the drivers in recent years have shaked their heads at the strategists. Ferrari must get that together because the incompetence in recent years was unacceptable. The bar is high from Red Bull. Mercedes’ aren’t too bad but they got outclassed by RBR strategists and it’s honestly a crap way to watch drivers lose.

[JPower]

Ferrari back on their BS by the sounds of it. A replacement lined up for Binotto, pending the 2022 car performance. Back to the revolving door policy that has worked so well for the last 15 years. Smh.

All we can do is hope that the 2022 rig does the job.

Edit: included the article link. Also, why block Todt? That one seems absurd to me. Is Elkann a plant?

https://www.formu1a.uno/il-possibile-ri ... -e-elkann/

Binotto needs to perform the car needs to be up there with Mercedes and red bull.. the 2019 engine embarrassment where started by binotto ferrari have not won a race since 2019

You really think binotto is the first of the problems? Ferrari have the drivers, they can get the car, they’ve done it many times before, but they either need a dominant car, or, a competitive strategy team. Because if they rely on the latter, better strategy teams in RB and Mercedes will be too much.

Even the drivers in recent years have shaked their heads at the strategists. Ferrari must get that together because the incompetence in recent years was unacceptable. The bar is high from Red Bull. Mercedes’ aren’t too bad but they got outclassed by RBR strategists and it’s honestly a crap way to watch drivers lose.

Ferrari's strategy was fine last year, especially after the pit stops were sorted out later in the year. Had a few unlucky moments but in general was just as solid as Mercedes IMO.

Would've looked like geniuses in some of the races had the pitstops not been botched.

[Henri]

Ferrari back on their BS by the sounds of it. A replacement lined up for Binotto, pending the 2022 car performance. Back to the revolving door policy that has worked so well for the last 15 years. Smh.

All we can do is hope that the 2022 rig does the job.

Edit: included the article link. Also, why block Todt? That one seems absurd to me. Is Elkann a plant?

https://www.formu1a.uno/il-possibile-ri ... -e-elkann/

Binotto needs to perform the car needs to be up there with Mercedes and red bull.. the 2019 engine embarrassment where started by binotto ferrari have not won a race since 2019

You really think binotto is the first of the problems? Ferrari have the drivers, they can get the car, they’ve done it many times before, but they either need a dominant car, or, a competitive strategy team. Because if they rely on the latter, better strategy teams in RB and Mercedes will be too much.

Even the drivers in recent years have shaked their heads at the strategists. Ferrari must get that together because the incompetence in recent years was unacceptable. The bar is high from Red Bull. Mercedes’ aren’t too bad but they got outclassed by RBR strategists and it’s honestly a crap way to watch drivers lose.

Mercedes won championships before massi intervenes so red bull strategists are not that good.. binotto started the engine cheating when he wanted a win after the summer break

[Ryar]

Binotto needs to perform the car needs to be up there with Mercedes and red bull.. the 2019 engine embarrassment where started by binotto ferrari have not won a race since 2019

You really think binotto is the first of the problems? Ferrari have the drivers, they can get the car, they’ve done it many times before, but they either need a dominant car, or, a competitive strategy team. Because if they rely on the latter, better strategy teams in RB and Mercedes will be too much.

Even the drivers in recent years have shaked their heads at the strategists. Ferrari must get that together because the incompetence in recent years was unacceptable. The bar is high from Red Bull. Mercedes’ aren’t too bad but they got outclassed by RBR strategists and it’s honestly a crap way to watch drivers lose.

Mercedes won championships before massi intervenes so red bull strategists are not that good.. binotto started the engine cheating when he wanted a win after the summer break

What a load of rubbish. Masi is now fast becoming a poor excuse for all problems at Mercedes. Masi was also responsible for poor reliability of Mercedes engines due to which Mercedes used tons of engines last year?

[Schippke]

I honestly don't truly think the Aerodynamic team has been as bad for Ferrari, aside from the decision for a more-lower downforce orientated car for 2019.

2017 - Great car aerodynamically, brought down due to lacking engine performance and reliability.

2018 - Another good car aero-wise, maybe not as good compared to Mercedes, but engine was there to make up for it.

2019 - Aero direction was a mistake imo... low-drag, then a change halfway through for more downforce; Power Unit made up for it, especially season 2nd half... almost out drove the aero short falls (Singapore 2019).

2020 - *sigh*... A bit hard to judge completely considering the engine itself was 'strangled' so had to compromise the car setup/aero wise... but looked like an absolute handful to drive regardless.

2021 - No other word for it, it was a great recovery from what they had to use/reuse for 2020 considering the restrictions (tokens) they had available to them.

So for 2022... yes, no doubt the Aero will be important, and it is a blank slate for all, but I'm less concerned about Ferrari's ability aerodynamic wise compared to years ago... Power Unit will be a biggie, as if there is issues with that ahead of homologation, and being effectively a huge change compared to previous, there's always that risk compared to the rest (Renault aside, new turbo layout and what not)... and the team functionality itself when it comes to strategy, though 2021 was a vast improvement there and in the pits. The drivers need no introduction; Give them the tools and both will deliver... hopefully Ferrari finally brings them the whole damn toolshed!

[Jolle]

I honestly don't truly think the Aerodynamic team has been as bad for Ferrari, aside from the decision for a more-lower downforce orientated car for 2019.

2017 - Great car aerodynamically, brought down due to lacking engine performance and reliability.

2018 - Another good car aero-wise, maybe not as good compared to Mercedes, but engine was there to make up for it.

2019 - Aero direction was a mistake imo... low-drag, then a change halfway through for more downforce; Power Unit made up for it, especially season 2nd half... almost out drove the aero short falls (Singapore 2019).

2020 - *sigh*... A bit hard to judge completely considering the engine itself was 'strangled' so had to compromise the car setup/aero wise... but looked like an absolute handful to drive regardless.

2021 - No other word for it, it was a great recovery from what they had to use/reuse for 2020 considering the restrictions (tokens) they had available to them.

So for 2022... yes, no doubt the Aero will be important, and it is a blank slate for all, but I'm less concerned about Ferrari's ability aerodynamic wise compared to years ago... Power Unit will be a biggie, as if there is issues with that ahead of homologation, and being effectively a huge change compared to previous, there's always that risk compared to the rest (Renault aside, new turbo layout and what not)... and the team functionality itself when it comes to strategy, though 2021 was a vast improvement there and in the pits. The drivers need no introduction; Give them the tools and both will deliver... hopefully Ferrari finally brings them the whole damn toolshed!

Well, if you looked at the development the past seasons vs the other top teams, it looked like they missed a few things. The whole field apart from AT, Williams and HAAS adopted a narrow nose except Ferrari. Next to that, especially last year, the aero department was unable to add stability to the rear, resulting in numerous crashes.

[Cuky]

Next to that, especially last year, the aero department was unable to add stability to the rear, resulting in numerous crashes.

Well last year the car was basically updated 2020 car. And they didn't really spend much time on it, they rather decided to spend it on 2022 car

[Scorpaguy]

Big Red lost its way when they fired Arri. Even then the team may have been "punching below their weight", but his record was the best since Todt and no need to mention thereafter. Arri was a fighter and demanded his guys to "slug it out" even when outmatched. His redundency seemed to be about nothing more than him being a bit mean at times. Bino's promotion was either just wrong or a bit premature. He may step up, but the team has lost years.