etusch wrote: ↑30 Jan 2022, 15:18
I figured out that only brands you can see around are hyundai and mazda which are manufactured out of europe.
Wouter wrote: ↑30 Jan 2022, 21:50
@Etusch speaks Turkish and he meant to say they are manufactured in Europe.
" ... which are manufactured out of europe." = They come from (out of) Europe. Not
outside Europe.
Etusch mentioned both Hyundai and Mazda. Hyundai is made in Czech Republic and has no import tariff, Mazda however is made in Japan for sale in Europe and
does attract the 9.8% import tariff.
Since I don't believe Honda are replacing the Swindon, UK factory, therefore future Hondas will attract the 9.8% tariff too (the tariff will finally and gradually reduce to 0% by 2032 IIRC, but it is too little too late in terms of the EU supporting the Japanese car industry -- indeed with the EU's past pro-diesel policies you'd almost perceive their stance as quite the opposite!), which will further make Honda pricing uncompetitive in Europe.
NL_Fer wrote: ↑31 Jan 2022, 16:07
They make great driving cars, with great engines. But all factors combined, Honda is not slaying the European B&C class so most people prefer brands like Skoda, Peugeot and Renault.
Meanwhile the Civic is the top-selling car in Canada and among the top 2-3 top selling C-class cars in North America and South East Asia. Go figure!
Indeed, it is as if different markets have different preferences and requirements.
For reference, North American (or Australian or South East Asian) motorists view Volkswagens as unreliable as they are more used to Toyotas, Hondas or Mazdas that can serve in the family for 15+ years and hardly ever need a unscheduled repair, and the Volkswagens (or Ford-Werke, Opel, Renault, Peugeot etc) are at contrast to that. Whereas from what I can gather European motorists are used to their vehicles needing repairs from time to time, as many have never owned a Toyota or Honda or Suzuki or other Japanese car (notwithstanding that the quality level of Nissan is pretty much level with Renault these days).