Scuderia Ferrari F1-75 speculation thread

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dialtone wrote:
03 Feb 2022, 18:32
It means he actually doesn't know where performance stands. Introduces uncertainty with "some people are perplexed with the new aero stuff", and then says "but then again if they'll win it's not a problem".

Also Turrini was the same that said that SF-70H was a bad car despite being clearly the best chassis.
Maybe some kind of bluff :)

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jumpingfish wrote:
03 Feb 2022, 18:11
But there are veiled (?) perplexities about the "innovative" (they say) solutions adopted for aerodynamics.
A lot of caution, it being understood that if at the first GP you are half a second ahead of RB and Mercedes, bye bye mom.
What does Turrini mean? If you are ahead of those two teams, you can win titles? Or being faster = ban innovative decisions?

https://www.quotidiano.net/blog/turrini ... ifi-5.7314
I take this to mean that in the event that Ferrari is half a second faster than Red Bull and Mercedes(or any other surprise top competition for that matter), that Leo is planning on murdering his family out of sheer impulse of excitement.

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EDIT: My bad. Already posted.

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If they do turn out to be half a second clear of everyone else the FIA will take care of it, don’t worry. Just like they did 2 years ago.
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Seanspeed wrote:
03 Feb 2022, 19:47
jumpingfish wrote:
03 Feb 2022, 18:11
But there are veiled (?) perplexities about the "innovative" (they say) solutions adopted for aerodynamics.
A lot of caution, it being understood that if at the first GP you are half a second ahead of RB and Mercedes, bye bye mom.
What does Turrini mean? If you are ahead of those two teams, you can win titles? Or being faster = ban innovative decisions?

https://www.quotidiano.net/blog/turrini ... ifi-5.7314
I take this to mean that in the event that Ferrari is half a second faster than Red Bull and Mercedes(or any other surprise top competition for that matter), that Leo is planning on murdering his family out of sheer impulse of excitement.
Sorry guys, but the Google translation is rather inaccurate, in the article Turrini says "mezzo secondo sopra", and it actually means "half a second in excess of".

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Seanspeed wrote:
03 Feb 2022, 19:47
jumpingfish wrote:
03 Feb 2022, 18:11
But there are veiled (?) perplexities about the "innovative" (they say) solutions adopted for aerodynamics.
A lot of caution, it being understood that if at the first GP you are half a second ahead of RB and Mercedes, bye bye mom.
What does Turrini mean? If you are ahead of those two teams, you can win titles? Or being faster = ban innovative decisions?

https://www.quotidiano.net/blog/turrini ... ifi-5.7314
I take this to mean that in the event that Ferrari is half a second faster than Red Bull and Mercedes(or any other surprise top competition for that matter), that Leo is planning on murdering his family out of sheer impulse of excitement.
not really,

Turrini is saying that if the car, with those exotic aerodynamic solutions, is slower by half a second than rb and Amg, bb mom. In italian it means.. "we are ---" :P

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formu1a uno reporting Haas will use the same cooling layout as Ferrari as we'd expect, thoughts from a Ferrari POV?

The coke bottle area is very slim but the front of the sidepods are so big and bulky, discouraging to me because I'm sure Mercedes, Red Bull and even McLaren will find a way to make the entire sidepod extremely slim

I'm also not sure why they keep trying the triangular airbox I just don't see the benefit of stuffing everything into the sidepods when you're trying to slim them down. They themselves backtracked from the triangle roll hoop intake in 2021 and now they're going back to it?

Not looking positive to me so far

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I would refrain from judging anything on the car at the moment. None of us have any clue what design concepts are best for these regs.

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wowgr8 wrote:
04 Feb 2022, 14:06
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKvyq8dXMAI ... name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKvyjJvXMAA ... name=large

formu1a uno reporting Haas will use the same cooling layout as Ferrari as we'd expect, thoughts from a Ferrari POV?

The coke bottle area is very slim but the front of the sidepods are so big and bulky, discouraging to me because I'm sure Mercedes, Red Bull and even McLaren will find a way to make the entire sidepod extremely slim

I'm also not sure why they keep trying the triangular airbox I just don't see the benefit of stuffing everything into the sidepods when you're trying to slim them down. They themselves backtracked from the triangle roll hoop intake in 2021 and now they're going back to it?

Not looking positive to me so far
I don’t think that is the FOM ‘model’, has it been leaked?

Side pods are VERY wide at the front.
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Stu wrote:
04 Feb 2022, 15:54

I don’t think that is the FOM ‘model’, has it been leaked?

Side pods are VERY wide at the front.
No, Haas revealed this around 3 hours ago, it's not the FOM model at all

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wowgr8 wrote:
04 Feb 2022, 14:06
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKvyq8dXMAI ... name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKvyjJvXMAA ... name=large
formu1a uno reporting Haas will use the same cooling layout as Ferrari as we'd expect, thoughts from a Ferrari POV?
One shouldn't expect that, because it's forbidden. Teams must deign their own cooling system (except the turbo charge-air water interccoler) and are not supposed to know the cooling layout of the factory team.
So the Haas cooling should be different from the Ferrari one, on paper...

But in the past years, many of the Haas cooling systems looked very similar to the Ferrari, too similar, and suspiciously similar, including the 2016 one. It seemed like Haas engineers saw the Ferrari cooling during the developpment phase of the Ferrari and copied it...
The Sauber/Alfa cooling layout is always completely different.

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Interesting to see that even though the sidepods of the Haas looks weirdly bulbous, it seems that the overall volume of the engine/engine cover is significantly reduced. More interesting even when you consider that the wheelbase is shorter.


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JPBD1990 wrote:
04 Feb 2022, 18:43
Interesting to see that even though the sidepods of the Haas looks weirdly bulbous, it seems that the overall volume of the engine/engine cover is significantly reduced. More interesting even when you consider that the wheelbase is shorter.

Interesting. It looks like there might be more than meets the eye.

I get that this is a speculation thread but I have to laugh at people thinking that Haas has already made bad design choices. We have no clue what aero properties work best with the new regs and why some decisions are being made over others. These designers aren't idiots.

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That red area which is supposed de represent the 2021 Haas is completely oversized (not on scale)